Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, not well said at all.This is absolutely ridiculous. I have always made it clear from the start that the only prohibition is against saying things CERTAINLY happened if not canon, or saying that things maybe happened when they are canonically CONTRADICTED. I never said anything which conveys the message you just stated- that is entirely misleading. Never did I say that only canon stuff could be submitted- that is ridiculous, it would rule out speculation. All that has been said is that only canonical stuff can be seen as undeniable fact. And again, these points are made very clear in the thread on canon, which I again urge people to read before making tiresome, needlessly aggravating and ill-thought out complaints like these. Official sources talking of the film's plot must be given good reason to be reasonably denied, even if not canon. Any guess or theory of yours was not even remotely official, and had no business being stated as anything even approaching fact or contradicting what is on-screen, and if you think I criticised it for neither of those I would be interested in seeing proof of that. When just about everyone important at Lucasfilm, and the official site itself, says Vader disappearred, then I have EVERY right saying that this is very likely, and unless you can canonically contradict it, no-one has any real call disputing that likelihood. So anyone who has the idea I am not playing by my own rules or applying a double standard is entirely mistaken.
Please do keep informed of clearly posted rules in future, and please do the courtesy of not mis-quoting me or mis-reading what I say, and please now return this thread to topic.
Fact is, Lucasfilm says Vader disappeared, and so that is very likely to be the truth of things. So we can either carry on this discussion from there, and bear in mind that any theory involving Vader not disappearing has to be seen as far less likely in light of that, or the point about legitimacy of sources can continue to be argued in which case I will have to close, as such rules are clearly posted already and debating them is not the point of the thread.
Incidentally, Pablo Hidalgo reported that George Lucas has also personally confirmed this.
thanx for proving my point.
hello everybody.
Its my first post here, so plz be gentle lol.
My post is a little off topic from the original question, but it does have some important relevance to the ghost errr POWER of the force.
In ANH Obi says,
"If you kill me now I will come back MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE" to me this is a bold statement for Obi to make to Vader (the most powerful of all the Jedi) but answers the question that Vader didn't now about this new disappearing act since he probably would have told Obi to STFU & take it like a man, but, also raises the question
So what new sh!t can you do dead-obi ?.
In ESB lukes about to rush off to bespin when ghost-obi says
"If you face Vader now, I cannot interfere" errr WHY-NOT & WHAT can ghost-obi do to interfere usually?
all misquotes, typos & grammar errors are entirely my own lazy-ass fault 😛 😄
well, first off, Vader isn't the most powerful of all the Jedi. Vader is more machine, Anakin is much more powerful than Vader and him being the chosen one doesn't mean he's the best of the best per sé, it means that he will fulfill the prophecy.
the dead obi wan became more powerful cause he trained the one thing that could redeem Vader: his son; as you can see in ESB where he says him to bugger off and go to Dagobah.
and ob1 can't interfere, cause he's just a ghost, he can't weild a sabre, he can only talk at most, and what can he say to a fallen pupil that wanted him dead and such?
Originally posted by yerssot
he tried to do some seriously sucking up to himif he said "dude, you suck balls. how the hell did you ever become a jedi???"
would anakin have said yes to him when he asked to join the dark side?
Exactly. lol What Palpy told Anakin in AOTC was some foreshadowing of what Palpy plans to do. He's trying to get Anakin on his side, to like him and be a strong supporter of him so when the great day of betrayel arrives, Anakin will fall to Sidious and the dark side.
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Originally posted by bILLYgOAT
hello everybody.
Its my first post here, so plz be gentle lol.
My post is a little off topic from the original question, but it does have some important relevance to the ghost errr POWER of the force.In ANH Obi says,
"If you kill me now I will come back MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE" to me this is a bold statement for Obi to make to Vader (the most powerful of all the Jedi) but answers the question that Vader didn't now about this new disappearing act since he probably would have told Obi to STFU & take it like a man, but, also raises the question
So what new sh!t can you do dead-obi ?.
In ESB lukes about to rush off to bespin when ghost-obi says
"If you face Vader now, I cannot interfere" errr WHY-NOT & WHAT can ghost-obi do to interfere usually?all misquotes, typos & grammar errors are entirely my own lazy-ass fault 😛 😄
he aslo cant interfere because its lukes destiny to challenge vader....he can guide luke towards that destiny like tellin him to go to odegabah and train with yoda
Originally posted by yerssot
I suggest you take a map... think you'll be shocked to find out that there are OTHER countries besides the USA and the UK 🙄
I think you will find that UK people know how to read maps. The benefit of never being more than 20 miles from our borders no matter what direction you go in LOL 😆