Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh. I've probably been spending too much time in the GDF, where when people ask for proof it's only so they can refute it or ignore it, and when people ask you questions they're always leading.
I respect both you and batdude, I just wanted to see some proof. No way was it a knock against you two.
Gravitons can go speed of light, I'm happy with that.
Originally posted by MetalmanxWait, wait. So he can indeed shoot extremely narrow beams from his eyes which do not have to go in the direction that his visor is facing? In other words, his head can be absolteuly staionary and he can pinpoint his eyes like Superman's heat vision and shoot narrow beams into the upper right hand corner of his field of vision... I need to see this. That rotiart scan appears to show that those narrow beams are going straight, which I agree he can do. But you're saying that if his visor was pointing in one direction, he can make narrow beams that go in different directions.
You did interpret it incorrectly, no offense.Do the same thing you told me. Make a visor with your hands. Now, you can still move your eyes all around that area, right? What I was saying is that if the visor was completely open (as in nothing obstructing his vision at all), and Scott squints and manually focuses his own eyes, he can produce thin, pencil-width beams from each eye. He's done it before. Now, using these beams and a completely-open visor, you can shoot anywhere within your field of vision accurately.
Do you see what I mean?
In other words, I thought what you were referring to was #1. But you are actually saying he could do #2? Without having to face that direction?
I did not know he can do that and I've never seen it before. I'd like to see scans before I'm ready to agree with you though.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wait, wait. So he can indeed shoot extremely narrow beams from his eyes which do not have to go in the direction that his visor is facing? In other words, his head can be absolteuly staionary and he can pinpoint his eyes like Superman's heat vision and shoot narrow beams into the upper right hand corner of his field of vision... I need to see this. That rotiart scan appears to show that those narrow beams are going straight, which I agree he can do. But you're saying that if his visor was pointing in one direction, he can make narrow beams that go in different directions.In other words, I thought what you were referring to was #1. But you are actually saying he could do #2? Without having to face that direction?
I did not know he can do that and I've never seen it before. I'd like to see scans before I'm ready to agree with you though.
I don't have a scan on me. But I have seen in multiple comics before when Scott simply lifts his glasses up and squints, producing twin, thin optic beams. They're still powerful, just smaller.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't have a scan on me. But I have seen in multiple comics before when Scott simply lifts his glasses up and squints, producing twin, thin optic beams. They're still powerful, just smaller.
Aye, didn't he once shoot out the center of a quarter in the middle of the air?
They'd have to be fairly thin, in that case.
Originally posted by MetalmanxYeah but the coin target is still the center of his vision's focus. He was still facing the coin. I remember that panel. It was when he revealed to Madelyne Pryor that he was a mutant. So that scan is quite clearly besides the point of your view. Look at the scan I drew again. Does that even make sense at all?
I don't have a scan on me. But I have seen in multiple comics before when Scott simply lifts his glasses up and squints, producing twin, thin optic beams. They're still powerful, just smaller.
I know he can make pinpoint beams, but when he's got his visor on, they still shoot straight in the direction his visor is pointing. This still means that his visor's direction has to be changed through his neck movement. The same way a gun's direction only shoots where the hand that holds it directs it.
Yes. This http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7768348 is true. Cyke can do this.
But I'm afraid I don't understand why you don't think the coin-shot wasn't an example of it. He had to squint and make a fine, pinpoint beam with his eyes in order to do it. Yea, he was facing the same way, but that doesn't take away from the feat itself.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes. This http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7768348 is true. Cyke can do this.But I'm afraid I don't understand why you don't think the coin-shot wasn't an example of it. He had to squint and make a fine, pinpoint beam with his eyes in order to do it. Yea, he was facing the same way, but that doesn't take away from the feat itself.
the mere fact that he squints... and a blast can come out that can knock a circular hole through a quarter... speaks mounds about
skill and his ability to control how much comes out of his eye.