Originally posted by peejayd
* that's absurd, man. if Logan goes berserk, and Cyke's movement will be slow for him, which means Logan is extremely fast in a berserker state. Cyke's movement maybe slowed due to Logan's berserker state but i doubt if Cyke's blast will slow down. picture this: the moment Cyke's eyes open, his beams blast out. Cyke's blast will never slow down even if Logan is in a berserker state.* the difference between the two is: Cyke never fights to death, but if he does, he'll just continue to blast Logan to oblivion. and, also Logan as always, fights recklessly (that's why i'm beginning to doubt his 7-fighting ability level). the fact that Cyke can blast Logan continually spells W-I-N for Cyke.
* about the Cyke-Storm leadership duel: eventhough Storm had no powers then, all Storm did was take Cyke's visor off his eyes. Storm did not defeat Cyke, they just stopped the fight. they just presumed that Storm won because she had taken Cyke's visor... and not to mention, Cyke was mentally bothered at that time, being a father and a husband to Madelyne Pryor. it all ends here - for Storm, a visorless Cyke is harmless, but for Cyke, a visorless Cyke means Storm goes abroad without passport.
* Cyke deals with this problem of his, and trains himself. Cyke can now fight even when his eyes are closed.
* about the Logan-Havok fight: although Cyke and Havok's powers cancel each other out, that does not mean that their powers are equal. their powers cancel each other out because they are blood brothers. still, Cyke will always and forever be, better than Alex. Alex is so stupid enough to be defeated by Logan.
* the thing that messes this fight is the fact that Logan is more popular and more well-loved by many people. i still can't believe this mentality. a freak with an indestructible claws and skeleton, got keen senses, got healing factor, horribly ugly, screwed many Marvel babes, and loved by readers... that's plain stupid.
* Cyke, as strict as his personality, never lets his guard down. while Logan solely depends on his animalistic senses. so in a no preparation fight, Logan will still lose but not killed, because again, Cyke never fights to death.
* do not brag about Logan able to withstand Cyke's direct blast, because that's plain preposterous. Cyke can punch a hole through a mountain, even cracked Onslaught's armour in one point. so, in a Cyke-Logan fight, there won't be any snikt's, rather only zark's, zakt's, and vam's for a smokin' Canadian burger.
* in a fight in the dark, Logan gets the upper hand, of course. but give Cyke a night vision visor, and Logan will again lose. no matter what instance, Logan will lose. the old geezer, the uncircumcised freak will always lose. Wolverine is just overrated, and Cyke's is very much underrated... that's it. arguing by logic and not by popularity spells L-O-S-E for Logan.
* Cyke wins, as simple as that, Wolverine-fanatics, accept the facts.