Wolverine VS Cyclops

when did Dark Pheonix do this? so she basically took out the Xmen by herself.....I gotta to find this issue.....

don't worry that never happen never just made that up I got the issue it nuthign liek that. also if u ever read wolverine vs havoc u would know wolverine ahs taken full on plast from havoc who just as powerful as he brother

"Carnage can throw down with the Fantastic Four by himself" ????
hahahahahaha

actually he has. he took on them Spiderman and Venom packing a sonic gun during maximum Carnage. this was back when Carnage was more vicious and wasnt jobbing to Spidey and Venom one on one

i remember the human torch...but carnage would have no hope against the whole ff....invisible woman could just contain him in a shield or bubble...his powers would be totally cancelled...if any writer ever had the FF face off against carnage they r on some ish

Well Carnage isnt what he used to be. when he sarted he even had psyionic abilties((nightmare halucinations, making new yorkers hate each other...not sure how that one worked)). but now he probably could only far well one on one.

but he'd still own Wolverine

I'm frankly tired of this dumbass running behind my posts and attempting to discredit me.

Now, a QUOTE from someone else who REVIEWED the same comic book:

"My favorite comic story? Spiderman versus Willow the Wisp. A three parter from the early '80's. Oh, and a "What If Phoenix Had Lived?" That was cool. She comes back to earth after roasting the alien planet, and smokes all the X-Men." <<<<<<<<<<

Whoa now. Nice little arrows to point the way - notice it says "She comes back to earth after roasting the alien planet, and SMOKES ALL THE X-MEN?"

http://www.timespell.com/interview.html

Comic book name? "What If Phoenix Had Lived."

The comic wherein she owns Terrax The Tamer. Basically grabs his dome and turns him into a human being.

She turned Nightcrawler into a living pyre. She turned Colossus human and Wolverine ran his claws through his heart. I cannot recall how she got rid of Havoc. Someone interrupted her and Cyclops hit her with EVERYTHING he had. She staggered for a second, then sent a blast right through Cyclops' chest. She THEN realized what she did. She yells, and you see the Phoenix Force rising. It consumes earth, then our galaxy, then the neighboring one.

You then see the Watcher standing over the scene and commenting.

NOW, Wolverine8888 - either take your sorry ass and fetch the comic book that you SAY I interpreted incorrectly or stay the F*CK out of my posts.

carnage would own wolvie....wolvie has to be close enough to claw someone to hurt them...getting close to carnage would be suicide for him....carnage would run his tendrils through wolvies eyes, into his brain, and he would die

yeah. but really I think Spider type power's just fare better in a straight up fight then Weapon X subjects

Spiderman,Scarlet Spider,Venom,Carnage

and

Sabretooth, Wolverine, Maverick, Cyber.

I say Spidey and the rest totally clean house

Wolverine would win, but it'd be close

why the hell u guys talking abotu carnage that was so random. also carnage could beat just abotu any super hero in marvel that the relay good carnage but all of a sudden carnage got was weaker then he was. the weaker carange and venom I am amost sure fought spiderman and wolverine be for

I liek to piont out stabbing wolverien brain wont kill him u know he done it to saber tooth that just a nice little fact u should all know. any ways wolverine would kick the shit out of summers

well i do belive you have the facts provided by Never to dispute. I will make a new thread so this does not go off topic

hint: thats what Carnage was about, we got "Off topic"

my bad lol

Originally posted by VENOMfan
yeah. but really I think Spider type power's just fare better in a straight up fight then Weapon X subjects

Spiderman,Scarlet Spider,Venom,Carnage

and

Sabretooth, Wolverine, Maverick, Cyber.

I say Spidey and the rest totally clean house

i agree that most spider powers are better than the weapon x program, but i think cyber has enough to beat anyone on the spider team (this is only my opinion though). the adamantium skin kinda makes him almost invincible, and even though his face is vulnerable its a pretty small target thats hard to hit coz he is a good fighter (he was one of wolverine's mentors) and even if he got hit in the face he still has that healing factor. plus he got adamantium claws and poison tipped hallucinogen.

cyber I am almost sur edoesent have claws and dident him and wolverine fight eachother in a comic. wolverien can take any one on that list ecpt for venom unless ur talken abotu weak venom then he got a shot. when I mean take like venom it could go either way I feel wolverien would win more tiems thou. spidermna i feel be a good fight but I feel wolverine win every time

I dont think cyber was wolverine mentor cuz wolverine far over 100 years old he was al ready I fantastic fighter way be for even jioning the weapon x team

here's a link that states cyber having retractable adamantium claws on each finger. check it out:

http://marvelbook.topcities.com/framepage.htm

im pretty sure that cyber was wolverine's mentor, but im gonna look for another site where it states that he was wolverine's mentor so as to have more reference.

as to wolverine being able to beat cyber, well thats the whole idea of heroes being able to beat villains is. and wouldn't be good advertising to have your hero get massacred by one of his foremost villains. therefore, they need to create stories where the hero wins more often than the villain.

they fought a bunch of times it I am correct cyber strong but he is slow

if not it