Wolverine VS Cyclops

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actauly I think I have a comic with cyber in it I am almost sure he doesent have claws

Originally posted by FrothByte
as to wolverine being able to beat cyber, well thats the whole idea of heroes being able to beat villains is

Wolverine was scared as hell of Cyber.

well Cyber and Carnage are each teams trumb cards. but I bet Carnage would go apeshit and turn Cyber inside out..that should kill him.

and yes Cyber is damn near invulnearble except for his face but check out Carnage:Mindbomb a face is all he Carnage needs. but this is isanely off topic now ill whip up a new thread soon. until then any other Weapon X canidates?

Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly I think I have a comic with cyber in it I am almost sure he doesent have claws

PLEASE check out the link i posted. the claws come out of his fingertips which means it would look more like long nails.

Originally posted by FrothByte
PLEASE check out the link i posted. the claws come out of his fingertips which means it would look more like long nails.

from the pics ive seen he does have claws. sorta like Sabretooth length depending on the artist

ur right he has claws I was thinking u ment like wolverine. wolverien is nto scared of cyber wolverine does not fear any one

i have about 3 comic books where cyber and wolvi fought. in one of them cyber beat the hell out of wolvi and left wolverine as a bloody mass. can't remember how the other 2 ended, i'll have to search my attic for it. but i do remember that wolverine was definitely afraid of cyber. he nearly damn crapped his pants. as far as i know, cyber holds the most victories over wolverine than any other weapon x foe of wolverine.

I rember them fighting in one and cyber was winning but wolverine came back for the win thou I nigth quite sure how it ended cuz it been a long time. I relay thought it was gay how cyber died. any one rember what cyber power were

of course cyber would hold msot victory wolverine deffently better then saber tooth he won almost every fight they had to gether

Originally posted by wolverine8888
any one rember what cyber power were

did you read the link that i posted? anyway, here's the copied page.

Real Name-- Silas Burr

Class-- unrevealed

Affiliations-- Wolverine villain

Scale of Operations-- worldwide

Occupation-- criminal

Powers-- Silas Burr was a superhuman mutant with the psionic ability to detect and track individual brain patterns. The range of this psionic ability had never been established, but it apparently stretched in a radius of several miles from his position. Cyber also possessed superhuman strength.

As Cyber, Burr's skin had been surgically laced with Adamantium, making him virtually invulnerable to any form of bodily harm. He had a retractable Adamantium claw on each of his fingers that he usually coated with certain hallucinogenic chemicals. The chemicals induced fear and anxiety once introduced in his victim's bloodstream. Cyber apparently possessed a "healing factor'' mutant ability that enabled him to heal at a superhuman rate, presumably enabling him to undergo the procedure which laced his skin with Adamantium. He also possessed a biological '"age suppression factor" that causes him to age at an unusually slow rate.

History-- Not much has been revealed regarding the past of the mutant mercenary Silas Burr, a.k.a. Cyber. In particular, the origin surrounding the fact that Cyber's skin has been surgically laced with the nearly-indestructible metal alloy known as Adamantium remains a mystery.

Apparently, Cyber shares a common past with the mutant adventurer known as Wolverine. Wolverine claims to have once admired Cyber, but the two ultimately had a falling out involving a woman. The two mutants clashed with Cyber emerging as the victor, while the object of their romantic interest was accidentally slain during the conflict. Cyber believed that he had slain Wolverine in this confrontation, but Wolverine survived, albeit psychologically scarred by his defeat.

The details about Cyber's activities after his fight with Wolverine remain largely unrevealed. It is known that he turned to crime and eventually joined a drug cartel as an enforcer.

In recent years, Cyber was sent by his cartel to the island nation of Madripoor to personally oversee the distribution of a large shipment of a powerful new drug. Cyber contacted both of Madripoor's leading crimelords, Tiger Tyger and General Nguyen Ngoc Coy, under the pretence of being interested in selling the shipment to their respective syndicates. In fact, however, Cyber planned to murder both crimelords, take control of their respective organizations, and rule Madripoor with the new hallucinogenic drug.

Wolverine confronted Cyber on behalf of Tyger, but Cyber defeated and nearly killed Wolverine with his hallucinogenic toxins. With the help of Tiger Tyger, Wolverine managed to overcome the effects of the hallucinogen and his fear of Cyber. When next they clashed, Cyber lost an eye to Wolverine before falling into a barrel of his own hallucinogen. Driven mad by the resultant nightmarish, chemically-induced hallucinations, Cyber fled into the woods in terror.

Eventually, Cyber recovered from his hallucinations and had his lost eye replaced with a cybernetic one. He once again returned to a life of crime as a mercenary and enforcer. On one occasion, he led the enforcer group known as the Hell's Belles against the mutant team X-Factor in an attempt to prevent former Belles member Shrew from testifying against the drug cartel Cyber worked for. On yet another occasion, Cyber was hired by a cult group called the Coven to retrieve the "Tear of Heaven," a gem involved in a ritual near the end of every century that ushers either an age of enlightenment or darkness. In his attempts to retrieve the "Tear of Heaven" Cyber was opposed by Wolverine. On both occasions, Cyber was seemingly killed in the end, but his Adamantium skin helped him survive.

Cyber later surfaced in Scotland where he performed a series of bank robberies. Eventually, he came across Wolverine and Zoe Culloden, an inter-dimensional operative of Landau, Luckman and Lake, the mysterious firm that handles Wolverine's finances. Although he was beaten and captured in his first confrontation with the two adventurers, Cyber managed to expose Wolverine to his hallucinogenic toxins again. Cyber soon escaped from captivity and began hunting Wolverine and Zoe, intending to kill them both. The hunt led to the Muir Island mutant research facility, where, with help from the mutant team Excalibur, Wolverine managed to regain his senses and to trap Cyber into an ultra-high security, psi-shielded chamber.

Cyber remained sealed inside the chamber at Muir Island until he was freed by the villainous Dark Riders, on behalf of the time-travelling villain Genesis. Cyber believed that the Riders were interested in him joining their group, but instead Genesis used flesh-eating mechanical "death watch beetles" to remove Cyber's Adamantium from his skin. The Adamantium was forged it into a new skeleton for Genesis' captive, Wolverine, who was the true object of Genesis' recruitment.

so wolverine beat him more time then he beat wolverine. also thanks for the bio

Originally posted by wolverine8888
so wolverine beat him more time then he beat wolverine. also thanks for the bio

not really. the fights stated in the bio were only a few of their major fights. they had lots of run ins and skirmishes and cyber dominated most of these.

also try to remeber the whole hero/villian thing. if writters just threw the two into a box with out caring about the fans or why good guys win the outcome of fights would be DRASTICALLY differnt.

Ain't that true

yes but also then it wouldent be true cuz the wrighter are what make the comic thou it piss me off when punsher holds his own vs siderman that just stupid

spiderman i mean

Originally posted by VENOMfan
Well Carnage isnt what he used to be. when he sarted he even had psyionic abilties((nightmare halucinations, making new yorkers hate each other...not sure how that one worked)). but now he probably could only far well one on one.

but he'd still own Wolverine

this is incorrect it wasn´t carnage that had psionic abilities, it was the girl, shriek, she is capable of manipulate the fears and angers of others.

Originally posted by norrin radd
this is incorrect it wasn´t carnage that had psionic abilities, it was the girl, shriek, she is capable of manipulate the fears and angers of others.

No here powers are not that well refined and are not actually listed

Appearance
Height: Unknown.
Weight: Unknown.
Eyes: Black or blue. Her left eye can produce a yellow glow, when she's using her powers.
Hair: Black and long.
Features: White skin.

Summary
Created By: Tom DeFalco, Mike W. Barr, Terry Kavanagh, Ron Lim, Jerry Bingham, Mark Bagley, Jim Sanders, III, Tom Palmer
Real Name: Sandra Deel in Maximum Carnage. Frances Louise Barrison from Shrieking onwards. Continuity goof-up.
Current Aliases: None.
Former Aliases: Unknown.
Dual Identity: Known to the authorities.
Current Occupation: Imprisoned.
Former Occupation: Rock band groupie and small drug dealer (before Shriek); mass-murderer (Shriek).
Citizenship: American.
Legal Status: Has a criminal record for hundreds of deaths.
Place of Birth: Somewhere in America.
Marital Status: Single.
Known Relatives: Carnage (adopted husband), Carrion II - Malcolm McBride - (adopted son), DemoGoblin (adopted son) and Doppelganger (adopted pet).
Known Confidants: Carnage, Carrion II, Dr. Kafka.
Known Allies: Carnage, Carrion II, DemoGoblin and Doppleganger.
Major Enemies: Spider-Man, Venom, Cloak & Dagger and the Jackal.
Usual Bases: The Ravencroft Institute for Insane Criminals.
Former Bases: All over New York.
Current Groups: None.
Former Groups: "Maximum Carnage".
Education: Unknown.

Powers & Paraphenalia
Strength Level: Slightly above human. Enough to easily raise someone with one hand, but not enough to get rid of a straightjacket.
Powers: She fires sonic blasts from her hands.
Abilities: She is able to tap into people's minds, and bring out their inner darkness (fears, anger, hate), making them act in violent and evil manners. She can also use her powers to fly and to levitate objects/people, as if she has weak psionic abilities. In fact, that would explain her darkness powers as well.
Equipment: None.
Weapons: None.
Limitations: Her obssession with families.

Background
Sandra/Frances was a young fat girl, whose mother was ashamed of, and whose parents abused her. That miserable childhood drove her to drugs. She became a groupie for a rock band, and a drug dealer. That was, until Cloak & Dagger dropped by during one of her deals. Being a disturbed femme herself, Cloak's darkness made her insane. After that, we only know that she was captured and imprisoned in Ravencroft. According to her, she was doing some killing, when some cops blew her brains, and when glueing the pieces, the doctors missed some. I don't think we should take that version very seriously.
Pure speculation: Shriek could already have latent powers that were triggered by Cloak's darkness, by some drug side effects or by the near-death experience (assuming the cops really shot her on the head). Or her powers may have been created by one/two/all of those factors. What we do know is that her sound powers were only fully developed after her meeting with Cloak. I wouldn't be much surprised if she was a mutant with some psionic abilities, and her troubled childhood, the drugs and Cloak's darkness shaped them this way. Not a clue about the white skin, though.

The story: when Carnage escaped from Ravencroft, at the beginning of the Maximum Carnage storyline, Shriek talked him into taking her with him. After that, they met with Doppelganger, DemoGoblin and Carrion II. Shriek's childhood problems started to surface, when she talked them into becoming a family, where she and her 'husband' (Carnage) taught their 'children' (Carrion II and DemoGoblin) the evil ways. And Doppelganger was their 'pet'. Her powers induced everyone to be evil, including the citizens of New York. By the end of Maximum Carnage, Carnage had killed Doppelganger, Malcolm McBride was rid of the Carrion virus (actually, he wasn't), Carnage was dead (nope, he wasn't either) DemoGoblin had seen the error of his ways (which didn't make him alter them much) and Shriek had seen the light (no she hadn't).

and Carnage can pruduce "nightmare's" if hes in contact with a victim as he did in "mindbomb"

and he can cuase people to hate each other. thats why New York((he affected a entire city)) started rioting and is half the chaos Maximum Carnage started

damnit to hell.....sorry bout all the posting....

anyhow what I ment to say was yes you were right about Shriek , but Carnage does not need here to perform these nightmares. Symbiotes do have some Psyionic abilities. Venom can nulify Spidermans Spidersense. and Track Carnage any where and every where