Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine on the other hand has hand down beaten Scot before like in (a taste for vengeance from X-men lost tales #2)Wolverine also as death wolverine defeated Scot as shown in the pic below
Yeah, too bad Wolverine as death was amped a lot by Apacolypse with Celestial tech. Not to mention that in AOA, Scott blew Wolverine's hand off (adamantium and all) and it didn't grow back.
Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, too bad Wolverine as death was amped a lot by Apacolypse with Celestial tech. Not to mention that in AOA, Scott blew Wolverine's hand off (adamantium and all) and it didn't grow back.
also AOA is not 616 and is unusable as evidence. besides the fact the is it unusable an also in 616 scot can not blast off wolverines arm.
Originally posted by badabing
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Originally posted by TheKahn
Sorry but I cannot remember who on the forum made this. The skeleton belongs to Mr. Sinister and one image is from the Ultimate UniverseHowever, I think this should show the problem Wolverine is dealing with in this fight. He is basically fighting a guy with a WMD in his head and I would assume that start out facing each other. So the question becomes can Wolverine close the distance between them before Cyke can think "Open". I would tend to think not. Add the fact that Cyke is very well aware of Wolverine's speed (and therefore wouldn't be caught off guard by it) and his weird "spacial awareness" ability and you have a difficult situation for Wolverine to realistically win in, imo.
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Originally posted by batdude123
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scot was on two occassion vs wolverine both of which I listed.
Originally posted by batdude123
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i have to agree. we're supposed to take evreything capt says as fact but he disputes every picture that is posted of anybody beating logan;
wolverine was sick
wolverine was depressed
wolverine had jock itch.
then the one capt does post of wolverine taking scott's blast is from aoa when wolverine is death wolverine and then capt says aoa is not usable. wtf.
Originally posted by CM-Shazam
i have to agree. we're supposed to take evreything capt says as fact but he disputes every picture that is posted of anybody beating logan;
wolverine was sick
wolverine was depressed
wolverine had jock itch.
then the one capt does post of wolverine taking scott's blast is from aoa when wolverine is death wolverine and then capt says aoa is not usable. wtf.
wolevrine was not sick he was being mind control by suaran to think scot was a monster not scot. also he was drop fro the air by sauran not only did he not know scot was scot he had no idea scot could shot blast from his eyes and wolverine was in mid air he was free falling he was a sitting target.
second the other pic wolverine was not depressed he was shaking with fear becuase has just been so mentally assualted so badly that his whole world was crash down arround him. scot him self states that if he had no done that wolverine might not have foughten ever again and scot even states how lucky he was becuase wolverien was not thinking at all during the fight.
also I said aoa is un usable becuas eit not 616. death wolverine is not aoa lol u should read up on that. detah wolverine was from 616.
Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, sure that would work if Cyclops actually lets Wolverine inside rather than blasting the hell outta him from a distance.
also this is my last post on this thread I must study for a final for an online class. if I fail this final i do not graduate
Originally posted by capt it up
ecpt wolverine has shown he can dodge lazer and he has shown he can dodge scots blasts as well.also this is my last post on this thread I must study for a final for an online class. if I fail this final i do not graduate
Yes, but it's not like he has to aim, with his blasts, he just has to LOOK at you and you're dead. Anyways, with such a wide arc beam going at the speed of light, Cyclops would definitely hit him. Anyways, see ya and good luck on your finals. 🙂
Okay first of all, no he wouldn't be able to dodge Cyclops' blast because:
1) The blasts are going at the speed of light.
2) All Cyclops has to do is LOOK at Wolverine and he's getting KO'd. It's not like a friggin' gun where you have to actually aim at something, Cyclops just has to look at Wolverine and he's dead. Besides, Wolverine has already been hit with Cyclops' blasts before.
Plus, if Cyclops does take off his visor, than Wolverine is DEFINITELY ko'd if not, then dead. Cyclops has leveled whole forests before. Cyclops' blasts would peel the flesh from Wolverine's bones and all that would be left is his shiny adamantium skeleton. Also, in AOA, Cyclops blew off Wolverine's hand and it didn't grow back. Besides, Cyclops' blasts have proven to be powerful enough to blast Sentinels back a quarter mile. Imagine how far Wolverine would go! And if by some magical reason (there really is no reason why) that Wolverine wouldn't get KO'd by Cyclops' blasts, then at least Cyclops could blast Wolverine far enough away to be considered BFR.
* let's face it, Wolverine's logic in fighting is rush and slash... that is what he does best, act first and think later... Cyclops is thinker, a strategist, and before Logan can rush close to slash him, Scott can blast him squarely... if he comes back, Cyke will shoot him again, and again, and again... hell, if the blast broke off Logan's hand in AOA, Logan's neck won't be a problem either...
Originally posted by capt it up
ecpt wolverine has shown he can dodge lazer and he has shown he can dodge scots blasts as well.also this is my last post on this thread I must study for a final for an online class. if I fail this final i do not graduate
You mean like the PIS img where Wolverine somehow predicts Scotts laser because he can "feel" it?
Which is stupid because its moving at the speed of light!
Originally posted by peejayd
* let's face it, Wolverine's logic in fighting is rush and slash... that is what he does best, act first and think later... Cyclops is thinker, a strategist, and before Logan can rush close to slash him, Scott can blast him squarely... if he comes back, Cyke will shoot him again, and again, and again... hell, if the blast broke off Logan's hand in AOA, Logan's neck won't be a problem either...
Originally posted by capt it up
first off wolverine only enchance ments were that he was undetactable by tracker and that he has mind blockers. also he got his skeleton back. those were the only enchancements ever said and ever shown. so please do make say that was from enchancements since that is not true and u have no prove to back up ur claims.also AOA is not 616 and is unusable as evidence. besides the fact the is it unusable an also in 616 scot can not blast off wolverines arm.
And we will never know will weexcept that as death he was a HUGE PIS! Wolverine as death was strong enough to tear open a door with X-Man using TK to shut it (Yeak Right), Scotts blasts are concussive and not only did Death walk through it unscathed but none of his closthes were ruffled, yet another PIS feat when scott has been shown that he can knock Wolverine back VERY FAR.
Wolverine cannot take the concussive blasts, he has been shown that Scott can and has hit Wolverine many times in the past. Now what I hear is a bunch of cries from Wolverine fans when it shows logean getting owned, well get over it because he has been served in the past and it will happen again by Cyclops...........9/10.
Originally posted by Soleran
And we will never know will weexcept that as death he was a HUGE PIS! Wolverine as death was strong enough to tear open a door with X-Man using TK to shut it (Yeak Right), Scotts blasts are concussive and not only did Death walk through it unscathed but none of his closthes were ruffled, yet another PIS feat when scott has been shown that he can knock Wolverine back VERY FAR.
Of course, but you must remember that facts such as those are easily ignored when it comes to certain characters. 😉 Now if Wolverine had a habit of walking though Scott's blasts then I would consider his feat as Death as something other than PIS. However, the opposite is true. It has been shown that Scott's blasts are in fact perfectly capable of knocking Wolverine (and significantly heavier objects) a considerable distance. How a 300lb man is suppose to be able to resist a force that is powerful enough to topple a forest of trees is, quite honestly, beyond me. Given the size of the area he is able to attack at once and the speed of said attack I simply cannot see how Wolverine can hope to win the battle without massive CIS on Scott's part.
Originally posted by Soleran
Wolverine cannot take the concussive blasts, he has been shown that Scott can and has hit Wolverine many times in the past. Now what I hear is a bunch of cries from Wolverine fans when it shows logean getting owned, well get over it because he has been served in the past and it will happen again by Cyclops...........9/10.
I think that the insistence that Wolverine is easily able to dodge Cyke's attacks is what troubles me the most as we have a bevy of evidence to the contrary. The most recent two examples I can think of is the bedroom scene in Astonishing X-Men and when Vulcan redirected Cyclop's blasts and hit Wolverine with it in Deadly Genesis.
