Originally posted by jinzin
yes he's also stood up to cyk's blasts on at least 2 occasions where he wasn't death off the top of my head.. once duing his fight with the whole x-team and again duiring a brood storyline.
But those examples do not agree with my opinion of how the fight would go, therefore I will ignore them as if they did not exist 😐.
Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, I'm having trouble understanding this. Cyclops' blasts have blasted through Magneto's shield, leveled whole forests, and have blown a Sentinel a quarter mile away. Are you logically trying to tell me that a 300 pound man can withstand NOT getting blasted back a long way? 🤨 Not to be rude, but if he doesn't, then it's pure PIS.
I'm not saying it isn't PIS I'm just saying it's happened.. when he hasn't been death.. you can't just say he was enhanced because the death wolverine feat is the only one people remember...
Originally posted by batdude123
This has absolutely nothing to do with his durability or healing factor, he WOULD go flying back a ways by Cyclops's blasts. Regular Wolverine has gone flying back before. Death Wolverine WALKED through Cyke's blasts
Originally posted by batdude123
and he also knocked down a door that was being held up by Cable's TK. He could never have done that normally,
Originally posted by batdude123because the feat you're saying he couldn't do as normal wolverine have been PRODUCED by normal wolverine.
so how was he not enhanced in that way?
Originally posted by batdude123
I know it wasn't formally stated that he wasn't enhanced like that, but judging by his feats, he clearly was.
Originally posted by batdude123i'm not denying that it's PIS I'm just saying it's happened.
However, Wolverine should not be walking through Cyclops' blasts considering what they have done to things. It's not logically possible. If there is a comic where normal Wolverine ever walked right through Cyclops' blast, it was PIS, plain and simple. I've been saying the same thing for months and TO THIS DAY, I have not gotten ONE logical response to it.
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not saying it isn't PIS I'm just saying it's happened.. when he hasn't been death.. you can't just say he was enhanced because the death wolverine feat is the only one people remember...he's also done this has normal wolverine and that presents a problem for the whole death was enhanced argument...
actually x-man was holding up the door. finally artist rep vs. plot line.. cyk says that someone is SLICING the door down... that's CERTAINLY within wolverine's capabilities.. the art looks like punching but the caption says slicing which takes more precidence? that's the question.
but for wolverine breaking through things.. remember those claws could easily weaken a door like that.. and wolverine's broken through 4 inches thick of bullet proof glass like it wasn't even there according the weapon x-files.. just food for thought.because the feat you're saying he couldn't do as normal wolverine have been PRODUCED by normal wolverine.
obviously not.
i'm not denying that it's PIS I'm just saying it's happened.
Fair enough but if Cyclops' blasts weren't jobbing to Wolverine, they'd knock him back every single time. 😉
Originally posted by TheKahn
Thanks. 😄 But just out of curiosity Jinzin, do you think Wolverine taking Cyke's blast is PIS? 😖hifty:
i think what this guy thinks...
Originally posted by batdude123
Fair enough but if Cyclops' blasts weren't jobbing to Wolverine, they'd knock him back every single time. 😉
but it's hard to discount wolverine doing it when he's done this and things like it so many damned times.
Originally posted by jinzin
i think what this guy thinks...but it's hard to discount wolverine doing it when he's done this and things like it so many damned times.
Hence where a lot of the "problems" with Wolverine on this thread comes from, imo. Where do you draw the line between PIS and a legitimate feat? Is it a question of it being reasonable according to powersets, the number of times it takes place, or if it is "official" according to the publishing company?
Personally, in a comic book I could very well see this going either way depending on the particular storyline, but in a non-PIS, non-jobbing fight I'd give it to Cyclops.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Hence where a lot of the "problems" with Wolverine on this thread comes from, imo. Where do you draw the line between PIS and a legitimate feat? Is it a question of it being reasonable according to powersets, the number of times it takes place, or if it is "official" according to the publishing company?Personally, in a comic book I could very well see this going either way depending on the particular storyline, but in a non-PIS, non-jobbing fight I'd give it to Cyclops.
Agreed 100%. ✅
Originally posted by batdude123
Wolverine wins 10/10. jockey
🤨
Just for that...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=322669&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1
Originally posted by diabloman
yes shes dead. wolvie goes and drops some flowers on her grave and kisses it. wolvie pisses on cylops grave.
* not unless Wolverine dies first before Cyke does... 😛
Originally posted by jinzin
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nu-uh.. read above.
* it happened? can you post some scans? if so... it's a very poor and inconsistent story-writing... 🙁
Originally posted by diablomanWill that be before or after Wolvie declares his undying love for Sabertooth, pushes Xavier down the stairs, rapes Jubilee and decapitates Nightcrawler? I mean, to suggest that Wolverine could win Cyclops is reasonable. But to suggest that Wolverine still hates Cyclops, the way he did back in the days when Jimmy Carter was the president of United States, blatantly ignores decades of character development.
yes shes dead. wolvie goes and drops some flowers on her grave and kisses it. wolvie pisses on cylops grave.