Originally posted by jrodslam
Well first off, theres a certain weakspot in the nuts. Its much easier to still be standing after a punch or kick in the face or chest. However being hit in the balls is a whole different story. Im not saying DD would do it though. But if he did, Spidey would sure as hell feel that.
i'm not saying he wont feel it. Just that isn't going to do anything. He can still fight on even when in considerable Paine
Originally posted by jrodslam
What?:wft: DD just dodges. He doesnt work anything out.
If someone goes to punch DD. His radar will tell him that someone is about to punch him. DD decides to duck to avoid the punch. He ducks and avoids it.
The same scenario with Spidey.
Someone goes to punch peter. Peter's spider-sense tells him to duck. he ducks and avoids it.
The spidersense tells him what to do. Daredevil has to work it out for himself.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Did i say Spidey couldnt dodge DD? They both have hit each other plenty of times. Thing is, Spidey cant land a good enough hit to ko DD. Thats my point. Regardless of how fast he is.
1. they don't both have to hit each other plenty of times. one hit from peter will ko matt, peter is too strong.
2. Spidey has hit opponents faster than DD such as Quicksilver or speed demon. DD isn't faster than them.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ahh, i see. So both scans i presented was Spidey at his worst because he couldnt ko DD? None of Spideys opponents are as skilled fighting wise and have the radar as DD so you cant really compare.
a lot of opponents spidey has fought are opponents who are very skilled in terms of fighting. The reason I was comparing those opponents in a previous post is because these opponents outclass DD yet spidey beats them on a regular basis.
K, first off that crossover was crap. I don't see how Spidey could not KO DD. If he wanted to he could let DD play defense. jus wherever he blocked Peter, he would have broken something. He raises his arm to block, well there goes his arm. And DD can't completely dodge Spider-Man, he is going down. Plus Spider-Man's spider-sense works on a subconscious level. Meaning that many times he isn't even aware he is dodging, its like an instinct for him. DD on the other uses his senses to predict where things will go an hence avoid them. DD explained this somewhere, he isn't fast enough to dodge bullets, however he anticipates where they goes. Spidey on the other hand is more than fast enough to dodge them. Plus he is stronger and much more agile. Spider-Man beats him
Originally posted by willRules
If someone goes to punch DD. His radar will tell him that someone is about to punch him. DD decides to duck to avoid the punch. He ducks and avoids it.The same scenario with Spidey.
Someone goes to punch peter. Peter's spider-sense tells him to duck. he ducks and avoids it.
The spidersense tells him what to do. Daredevil has to work it out for himself.
I dont think that entirely accurate. DD seems so.
Someone goes to punch peter. Peter's spider-sense tells him theres going to be danger. Spidey reacts to the sense going off, looks where its coming from sees it coming then ducks.
Originally posted by willRules
1. they don't both have to hit each other plenty of times. one hit from peter will ko matt, peter is too strong.
2. Spidey has hit opponents faster than DD such as Quicksilver or speed demon. DD isn't faster than them.
1. Spidey needs a good hit to ko DD. DD needs a finger to put Spidey down.
2. DD has hit opponents faster than Quicksilver and Speed demon such as Namor. Your point is?
Originally posted by willRules
a lot of opponents spidey has fought are opponents who are very skilled in terms of fighting. The reason I was comparing those opponents in a previous post is because these opponents outclass DD yet spidey beats them on a regular basis.
You mentioned Bullseye. Hes not more skilled than or outclasses DD. The Owl is less skilled than them all and he beat Spidey. DD beats him on the reg.
Originally posted by marvelprince
K, first off that crossover was crap. I don't see how Spidey could not KO DD. If he wanted to he could let DD play defense. jus wherever he blocked Peter, he would have broken something. He raises his arm to block, well there goes his arm. And DD can't completely dodge Spider-Man, he is going down. Plus Spider-Man's spider-sense works on a subconscious level. Meaning that many times he isn't even aware he is dodging, its like an instinct for him. DD on the other uses his senses to predict where things will go an hence avoid them. DD explained this somewhere, he isn't fast enough to dodge bullets, however he anticipates where they goes. Spidey on the other hand is more than fast enough to dodge them. Plus he is stronger and much more agile. Spider-Man beats him
Rolling with the punch isnt so much blocking it. Even while blocking, he could try to parry. Thats may be the case for lack of broken limbs. Dd has said that after the bullets have been fired, he tracks them via hypersenses allowing him to twist and turn out of their way. Sounds like dodging to me.
Namor isn't faster than quicksilver and speed demon on land. which is where spidey fought them.
The spider-sense causes him to move on instinct. He can try to ignore it but its hard. it tells him if he's in danger and where it's coming from. Not what it is. it also tels him what action to take. whether dodge or jump or move back. He doesn't have to think about it he just does it. it'.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont think that entirely accurate. DD seems so.Someone goes to punch peter. Peter's spider-sense tells him theres going to be danger. Spidey reacts to the sense going off, looks where its coming from sees it coming then ducks.
The Dorling Kindersley official guide to spider-man written by Tom defalco and fwarded by Stan lee states that the spider-sense doesn't tell him what the threat is, just what to do to dodge it.
Whereas like every human Daredevil has to decide himself what course of action to take and then preform that action in hope it works.
Originally posted by jrodslam
1. Spidey needs a good hit to ko DD. DD needs a finger to put Spidey down.
2. DD has hit opponents faster than Quicksilver and Speed demon such as Namor. Your point is?
1. Spidey dodges bullets. DD isn't as fast as spidey.
2. Didn't Namor mop the floor with Daredevil? Plus I think speed demon and quicksilver are faster on land.
Originally posted by jrodslam
You mentioned Bullseye. Hes not more skilled than or outclasses DD. The Owl is less skilled than them all and he beat Spidey. DD beats him on the reg.
There are numerous opponents spidey takes on that DD doesn't stand a chance against. A good example is molurm. here are a list of some of the opponents. http://www.samruby.com/villtoc.htm
Again spidey is simply too strong, too faster and can simply avoi everythign DD has.
Originally posted by willRulesWhy would any of the bones be broken? If spiderman was an immovable object and DD was hitting with all of his might that might be the case, but people can hit immovable objects and not break bones, and if an object is movable then they have a far less of a chance to break the bone.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would any of the bones be broken? If spiderman was an immovable object and DD was hitting with all of his might that might be the case, but people can hit immovable objects and not break bones, and if an object is movable then they have a far less of a chance to break the bone.
And people have broken there hands hitting regular human beings.
spidey has had bats broken over him and not felt a thing.
add all this with spideys enhanced durabilit,muscle,and stronger than human bones. then yes DD should have broken his hand and DD should have had his bones broken if he was hit by a full force spider punch.
and he was punched in that scan. he landed a hit.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would any of the bones be broken? If spiderman was an immovable object and DD was hitting with all of his might that might be the case, but people can hit immovable objects and not break bones, and if an object is movable then they have a far less of a chance to break the bone.
yet people go on crazy stunts and survive, then they slip on soap in the shower and die.
Originally posted by Jose123
Namor isn't faster than quicksilver and speed demon on land. which is where spidey fought them.
Originally posted by Jose123
The spider-sense causes him to move on instinct. He can try to ignore it but its hard. it tells him if he's in danger and where it's coming from. Not what it is. it also tels him what action to take. whether dodge or jump or move back. He doesn't have to think about it he just does it. it'.
Same thing with DD. Radar goes off, he knows what it is and where its coming from. DD then moves out of the way.
