Originally posted by Jose123
are you actually wondering why spider-man hasn't KO'd DD with one of his 15 ton punches. It's the same reason he doesn't knock a robbers head off. He holds back considerably when facing those he sees as normal humans.
I know Spidey holds back in fights with street level characters. 90% of heroes hold back with fighting thugs or street lvl'ers. When Spidey fights DD he holds back yes, but he cant even land a strong enough hit to ko DD.
Originally posted by Jose123
And even though DD has his Radar sense it is nothing compared to the Spider-sense. spider-sens is actually a form of telapathy. actual precog.
The spider sense is a form or telepathy in knowing theres danger. Someone stated that it would go off if someone just looks at him wrong. However, unlike radar sense, he doesnt know exactly what the danger is. DD does.
Originally posted by Jose123
And yes DD has peak human reflexes. his senses and radar sense help him alot but their not superhuman. their peak human. the chemicals isotope affected his eyes and senses. they didn't transform his whole body.
A peak human with peak human reflexes cant catch bullets or bat them like softballs. Because of the radar, hes able to be ready for things and act just as they happen.
Originally posted by Jose123
And spideys dodging abilities are a combination of his spidey sense and his speed and agility. You think a normal human even with the help of the spidey sense would be able to dodge sub machine gun fire from all directions. Just knowing were their going to hit doesn't mean you'll be able to avoid the bullets if your not fast enough or agile enough to move out of the way.
I know Spideys abilities are a combination of his spidey sense and his speed and agility. Thing is DD is fast enough to dodge bullets and move out of the way due to agility and speed.
Originally posted by Jose123
spider-man is faster more ,agile, stronger and the spider-sense is better than the radar sense. And spidey can just web him up. it's probably the first thin he'll do. combined with his Superior speed hitting someone like DD is really easy.
Sider sense isnt better than radar sense. Spidey can TRY to web him. I never stated tha he couldnt hit DD. Hit him hard enough to ko him? Havent seen or heard of it yet.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I know Spidey holds back in fights with street level characters. 90% of heroes hold back with fighting thugs or street lvl'ers. When Spidey fights DD he holds back yes, but he cant even land a strong enough hit to ko DD.
Sad, really.
Originally posted by Jose123
spidey sense>>>DD senses when it comes to dodging and precog.You really think DD can dodge his webing. I don't think so. sp is faster and has hit people much faster than DD.
This is a VS.match where the characters are not holding back.
that being said DD has his head punched off in less than a couple of minutes.
i probably one of the biggest DD fans on these boards but even I don't think he's faster or has better precog than Spider-man.
Spidey may have hit people naturaly faster than DD with the webbing. However those people most likely didnt have the dodge abilities and senses as DD.
I know this is a vs match where characters are not holding back. Spidey bloodlusted is sloppy. DD not holding back paralyzes Spidey.
Originally posted by willRules
Oh Im sorry i didn't realise DD had superhuman speed which meant he could dodge opponents who are much faster than him. Oh no, wait. he can't.[/B
His reflexes allow him to dodge, parry faster opponents. Im not saying DD has super speed.
Originally posted by willRules
[B]DD sense don't allow him to keep up with spidey, he mentions that all the time. DD might be able to knock a bullet out of the air but spider-man dodges bullets literally without thinking about it.
And DD doesnt dodge bullets like nothing? DD admits Spidey is stronger, and Spidey admitted he cant land a solid hit on DD, so...
Originally posted by willRules
DD isn't fast enough, quick enough, strong enough or good enough at dodging to hold his own in a fight with spidey. The example you showed was conviently spidey at his worst and Daredevil fighting for his life.
I showed 2 examples. Or was Spidey fighting at his worst in both cases?
Originally posted by Jose123
has that ever been stated that he knows that he can't hit DD with his webbing. Or are you just making shit up.Name the issue where Spider-man states that.
I worded that wrong. I wasnt implying Spidey SAID he cant tag DD with the webbing. I was mentioning range weapons such as webbing or billy clubs arent used because they wouldnt be much of a factor. Sorry bout that if i wasnt clear.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Spidey may have hit people naturaly faster than DD with the webbing. However those people most likely didnt have the dodge abilities and senses as DD.I know this is a vs match where characters are not holding back. Spidey bloodlusted is sloppy. DD not holding back paralyzes Spidey.
Spider-man has fought the scarlet spider and won. i think that counts as fighting and hitting someone with precog.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I know Spidey holds back in fights with street level characters. 90% of heroes hold back with fighting thugs or street lvl'ers. When Spidey fights DD he holds back yes, but he cant even land a strong enough hit to ko DD.
well now you are predicting the outcome in terms of speed, who is faster? spidey is easily faster.
Originally posted by jrodslam
The spider sense is a form or telepathy in knowing theres danger. Someone stated that it would go off if someone just looks at him wrong. However, unlike radar sense, he doesnt know exactly what the danger is. DD does.
The spider-sense doesn't tell Peter what the danger is it tells him what to do to avoid the danger, following it instinctively Peter has been known to dodge lasers, machine gunfire etc etc. DD can work out the danger through things like (example) a jump in heartbeat. he then must decide how to react and then react. By this time Spidey would be knocking him unconcious, he is simply too strong and too fast for DD.
Originally posted by jrodslam
A peak human with peak human reflexes cant catch bullets or bat them like softballs. Because of the radar, hes able to be ready for things and act just as they happen.
But only just. he can't do it easily. he needs to predict the movements. Spidey dodges bullets like we breathe, its virtually a natural, instinctive reaction.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I know Spideys abilities are a combination of his spidey sense and his speed and agility. Thing is DD is fast enough to dodge bullets and move out of the way due to agility and speed.
But it takes effort and he does it with training and peak huma speed. Peter dodges lasers with natural superhuman ease.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Sider sense isnt better than radar sense.
the spider-sense tells Peter he is in danger and immediately alerts him what to do to avoid the danger. the radar sense is merely and awareness of danger. it doesn't tell matt what to do to avoid it. He must use his own time to work that one out.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Spidey can TRY to web him. I never stated tha he couldnt hit DD. Hit him hard enough to ko him? Havent seen or heard of it yet.
well he is much more likely to knockout DD than DD to lay a finger on him.
Yeah that is true but you people fail to realize they are very close in terms of fighting. Spiderman has the freakish strenght but has been known to give up an awful lot. DareDevil has the senses where he knows Spidey is coming a mile before time. He has a lot of time to mentally prepare. However if he never gives up what the hell was the director of Daredevil thinking when he had electra stab Matt and he laid down until she was dead where he suddenly regained all of his strength.
Originally posted by willRules
stats don't mean squat when it comes to the battle? Yeah 🙄 It only tells us who is faster, stronger, better agility, reflexes, or is the only reason you said stats don't count is cos it shows spidey is better? 😉
I know statistically Spidey is better. Thats obvious. But are you saying just because someones statistically better against another, they win automatically? Thats surely not the case. Smarts play a factor as well. Fighting ability also. DD's senses allow him to roll with tougher opponents punches. They also help him deal with faster opponenets.