spider- man vs daredevil

Yes it has been stated before that Wolverine's senses are better and more acute than Daredevil's. However Daredevil is adept at using his senses that is able to take full advantage of his abilities to achieve what Wolverine may be unable to do. This is wat makes Daredevil so powerful.

And Spider-Man's spider-sense can be considered pre-cog because it reacts even before the source of danger presents itself. ie. Before the tell tale contracting of muscles and faster heart beat. For Daredevil the person themself must be aware of the action before Daredevil is aware. And for inanimate its more easily seen, an mounted weapon set to automatically fire will draw Spider-Man's spier-sense as opposed to after the shot is fired for DD.

Oh and Spider-Man beats DD at least 8/10 times. Stronger, faster, more agile, spider-sense to go vs his radar sense plus his webbing. Too much for old hornhead

Originally posted by marvelprince
Yes it has been stated before that Wolverine's senses are better and more acute than Daredevil's. However Daredevil is adept at using his senses that is able to take full advantage of his abilities to achieve what Wolverine may be unable to do. This is wat makes Daredevil so powerful.

And Spider-Man's spider-sense can be considered pre-cog because it reacts even before the source of danger presents itself. ie. Before the tell tale contracting of muscles and faster heart beat. For Daredevil the person themself must be aware of the action before Daredevil is aware. And for inanimate its more easily seen, an mounted weapon set to automatically fire will draw Spider-Man's spier-sense as opposed to after the shot is fired for DD.

Oh and Spider-Man beats DD at least 8/10 times. Stronger, faster, more agile, spider-sense to go vs his radar sense plus his webbing. Too much for old hornhead

Agreed with everything you just said. Except the the sense thing.
I say DD sense of hearing and touche are more acute. while wolverine has the smell and sight.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Yes it has been stated before that Wolverine's senses are better and more acute than Daredevil's.

Smell and thast it. What else besides that?

Originally posted by marvelprince
And Spider-Man's spider-sense can be considered pre-cog because it reacts even before the source of danger presents itself. ie. Before the tell tale contracting of muscles and faster heart beat.

Are you saying that the spidey sense goes off before theres even a threat? The sense wont go off unless theres a threat in the area. Thats when he has to find that threat. If theres a threat in the area, that means someone has intentions to do bad. That would meant that the person is aware of the action as well. Its called pre-meditated. Thats what creates the threat.

Originally posted by marvelprince
And for inanimate its more easily seen, an mounted weapon set to automatically fire will draw Spider-Man's spier-sense as opposed to after the shot is fired for DD.

Not true. DD's senses would pick up a mounted weapon before it goes off as well. Examples are bombs/explosives as well as guns. DD doesnt have to wait for the shot to be fired. If a bomb was about to go off, Spideys sense would go off. He wouldnt know it was a bomb however. Daredevil on the other hand would know its a bomb simply by hearing circuits coming together or ticking.

[QUOTE=5704022]Originally posted by jrodslam
[B]Smell and thast it. What else besides that?

Are you saying that the spidey sense goes off before theres even a threat? The sense wont go off unless theres a threat in the area. Thats when he has to find that threat. If theres a threat in the area, that means someone has intentions to do bad. That would meant that the person is aware of the action as well. Its called pre-meditated. Thats what creates the threat.

No. Try this example. Someone a great distance away, for sake of argument lets say out of range of DD's radar, is planning to take control of someone's mind to make them attack Spider-Man/DD. Spider-Man's spipder-sense would go off before control of took place. Meaning before the person who was being controlled was even aware something is going down. This means no tell tale signs before hand for DD to pick as the person is not aware, but the spider-sense would pick up something like that. Or even if the person was trying to take over Spidey's mind, his spider-sense would go off before but DD wouldn't be aware. This is probably the best example to illustrate the difference

Originally posted by marvelprince
No. Try this example. Someone a great distance away, for sake of argument lets say out of range of DD's radar, is planning to take control of someone's mind to make them attack Spider-Man/DD. Spider-Man's spipder-sense would go off before control of took place.

Are you high? His spider sense only goes off if there is a threat to him, meaning it wouldn't go off until the controlled person became a direct threat to Spiderman, as in in the area.

from Marvel.com

Spider-man

Int - 4
Str - 4
Speed - 3
Durability - 3
Energy Protection - 1
Fighting Skills - 4

Daredevil

Int - 3
Str - 2
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Protection - 1
Fighting Skills - 5

Numbers say it all, smarter, stronger, faster, more durable and almost as good of a fighter.

Spiderman

Originally posted by marvelprince
No. Try this example. Someone a great distance away, for sake of argument lets say out of range of DD's radar, is planning to take control of someone's mind to make them attack Spider-Man/DD. Spider-Man's spipder-sense would go off before control of took place. Meaning before the person who was being controlled was even aware something is going down. This means no tell tale signs before hand for DD to pick as the person is not aware, but the spider-sense would pick up something like that. Or even if the person was trying to take over Spidey's mind, his spider-sense would go off before but DD wouldn't be aware. This is probably the best example to illustrate the difference

How far can the spidey sense go? DD's radar is good for about 2 blocks. Are you saying that the spidey sense is gonna go off for something 3 blocks away? And IF it did, which i doubt, he wouldnt even know what it was or who it was coming from. Hed be looking in the immediate area. Thats a bad example.

If the person were going to try and take control of Spidey, i take it hed have to be in close proximity. Once again, the spidey-sense wouold go off, but he wouldnt know the danger. DD on the otherhand would hear the persons rapid heartbeat and know they had something up their sleeve.

Originally posted by inamilist
from Marvel.com

Spider-man

Int - 4
Str - 4
Speed - 3
Durability - 3
Energy Protection - 1
Fighting Skills - 4

Daredevil

Int - 3
Str - 2
Speed - 2
Durability - 2
Energy Protection - 1
Fighting Skills - 5

Numbers say it all, smarter, stronger, faster, more durable and almost as good of a fighter.

Spiderman

Yea, we all know how accurate Marvels stats are. 🙄

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea, we all know how accurate Marvels stats are. 🙄

i would assume the most accurate, as they own the rights to the characters

ie, they say it thats how it is

The one-toseven stat system indicates ranges.

Wolverine is also a four in strength, but I highly doubt that he is as strong as Spiderman.

Originally posted by inamilist
i would assume the most accurate, as they own the rights to the characters

ie, they say it thats how it is

So you would agree that Warmachines fighting skills are as good as Chang-Chi's? Both of them are rated as 5.

You would also agree that Captain America CANT lift over 800 lbs? Hes rated as a 3 which means he can only lift twice his own body weight.

Originally posted by jrodslam
So you would agree that Warmachines fighting skills are as good as Chang-Chi's? Both of them are rated as 5.

You would also agree that Captain America CANT lift over 800 lbs? Hes rated as a 3 which means he can only lift twice his own body weight.

im not saying any of that

i would agree that they are ranges, and if i said/thought that was all that mattered, i would be insane, sorry if it looked that way.

my arguement is that we dont get to dictate what the powers of a character are. I dont think that these numbers are cast in stone but i think they serve as a good starting block, as they are what the creators at marvel have decided on.

where did you find information regarding how the numbers correspond to feats, ie 3 meaning Cap can only lift 500lbs?

Originally posted by inamilist
where did you find information regarding how the numbers correspond to feats, ie 3 meaning Cap can only lift 500lbs?

Handbooks and Encyclopedia.

3 = able to lift twice own body weight.

For Cap, thats totally wrong. He weighs about 220(Handbook) - 240(Encyclopedia). Twice his body weight would be 440 - 480 lbs.

He curls 500 lbs and benches over 1,000 lbs. Thus his strength should be ranked as a 4 which is 800 lbs - 25 tons.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Handbooks and Encyclopedia.

3 = able to lift twice own body weight.

For Cap, thats totally wrong. He weighs about 220(Handbook) - 240(Encyclopedia). Twice his body weight would be 440 - 480 lbs.

He curls 500 lbs and benches over 1,000 lbs. Thus his strength should be ranked as a 4 which is 800 lbs - 25 tons.

WOW

i was compleatly unaware of that

thats kinda ridiculous to thnk about

my mistake 😮

Originally posted by inamilist
WOW

i was compleatly unaware of that

thats kinda ridiculous to thnk about

my mistake 😮

Its all good man. Its Marvel's fault really. They need to either upgrade stats every year, or just get rid of the system. They should just let the comics decide who has what level of abilities. Like DC 😄 .

Originally posted by jrodslam
How far can the spidey sense go? DD's radar is good for about 2 blocks. Are you saying that the spidey sense is gonna go off for something 3 blocks away? And IF it did, which i doubt, he wouldnt even know what it was or who it was coming from. Hed be looking in the immediate area. Thats a bad example.

If the person were going to try and take control of Spidey, i take it hed have to be in close proximity. Once again, the spidey-sense wouold go off, but he wouldnt know the danger. DD on the otherhand would hear the persons rapid heartbeat and know they had something up their sleeve.

I don't think Spider Sense really has a "range"... As far as I know, his spider tracker things work by SS, and he can pick those up from miles away. There's certain situations where one would be more useful than the other, because the two senses are DIFFERENT by nature. You can't judge power with them. DD would probably be much better at finding a nervous telepath, but for dodging lasers from stealthbots from a quarter miles away? I'd go with Spider sense. In terms of battle effectiveness, I'd say they're all but equal.

Now, as to an actual fight, Spiderman has every advantage save one, which just so happens to be... well, very important. Fightin skillz. Daredevil has them in spades, without his powers, Parker would be a mediocre street fighter. He's got experience, but no formal style- he just kind of hits people.

Daredevil should probably be one of the hardest guys for Spiderman to hit. He's nealry as fast, has his radar, and is a very good fighter. However, Spiderman's body outclasses Matt's in all aspects. Much stronger, much more flexible, more durable... Even his brain works faster. Fighting to his fullest, even Daredevil shouldn't be able to counter blows and bursts of webbing from someone who is that much stronger and faster than him.

Daredevil is an absolute monster, but Spiderman outclasses him in almost every aspect, if only by a little. Spiderman, 8/10.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I don't think Spider Sense really has a "range"... As far as I know, his spider tracker things work by SS, and he can pick those up from miles away. There's certain situations where one would be more useful than the other, because the two senses are DIFFERENT by nature. You can't judge power with them. DD would probably be much better at finding a nervous telepath, but for dodging lasers from stealthbots from a quarter miles away? I'd go with Spider sense. In terms of battle effectiveness, I'd say they're all but equal.

I pretty much agree. Although ive personally never seen DD get lasers fired at him before. But i have no doubts that he could do it. Guess ill have to do more searching for that.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Now, as to an actual fight, Spiderman has every advantage save one, which just so happens to be... well, very important. Fightin skillz. Daredevil has them in spades, without his powers, Parker would be a mediocre street fighter. He's got experience, but no formal style- he just kind of hits people.

I dont dissagree with that.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Daredevil should probably be one of the hardest guys for Spiderman to hit. He's nealry as fast, has his radar, and is a very good fighter. However, Spiderman's body outclasses Matt's in all aspects. Much stronger, much more flexible, more durable... Even his brain works faster. Fighting to his fullest, even Daredevil shouldn't be able to counter blows and bursts of webbing from someone who is that much stronger and faster than him.

Once again, i dont disagree for the most part. But i do have different opinions about 2 things. In h2h combat, Spideys not that much faster than DD. Very slightly imo. Due to DD's senses, it appears to make him much faster in combat. Fighting to his fullest, DD can literally put Spidey down with 1 move. It would be much harder for Spidey to connect with a punch that would ko DD. Im not saying that he cant. Im just saying that with both fighting to their fullest, DD is more likely to put Spidey down with a paralyzing hit, than it would be for Spidey to ko him.

Crazytalk. If Spidey's fighting to his fullest, DD will get beaten to a pulp. He'll know the punches and or kicks are coming and he'll also know he can't do jack sh*t about it.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Crazytalk. If Spidey's fighting to his fullest, DD will get beaten to a pulp. He'll know the punches and or kicks are coming and he'll also know he can't do jack sh*t about it.

Do you know what happend agter that hit? Was DD ko'd? Youd also know that Spidey wasnt in his right mind in that pic. Do you see what Spidey says. No matter how fast he is, he cant land a solid hit.

Plus is the pic you posted, DD is trying to talk Spidey out of fighting. He didnt even bother to fight back.