spider- man vs daredevil

Originally posted by jrodslam
I pretty much agree. Although ive personally never seen DD get lasers fired at him before. But i have no doubts that he could do it. Guess ill have to do more searching for that.

I'm not saying Daredevil couldn't dodge lasers. I'm saying a sniper with a laser from a long distance away would have a better chance at hitting Daredevil than Spiderman, because he wouldn't do much to get DD's attention, while SS would still kick in. However, DD's radar is more precise than spidey sense, and so it is more useful in places like crowded city streets for identifying hidden attackers and the like.

Once again, i dont disagree for the most part. But i do have different opinions about 2 things. In h2h combat, Spideys not that much faster than DD. Very slightly imo. Due to DD's senses, it appears to make him much faster in combat. Fighting to his fullest, DD can literally put Spidey down with 1 move. It would be much harder for Spidey to connect with a punch that would ko DD. Im not saying that he cant. Im just saying that with both fighting to their fullest, DD is more likely to put Spidey down with a paralyzing hit, than it would be for Spidey to ko him.

Not that much faster, but I'd still give an edge to Spiderman. DD is insanely fast, but so is Spiderman. Each one can pout the other down with one strike- Parker just needs a lot less precision. If both are indeed pretty even with speed, isn't it more feasible for Matt to get hit in the face or chest before he gets an opening to pull a nerve pinch on Spiderman? He's a good fighter, but his targets are a LOT smaller.

I'd say, witten well, both would have a very hard time getting solid hits on the other. A nerve pinch doesn't take as much force as a haymaker, but it requires a lot of precision. I think Spiderman's strength wins this, ultimately, because his glancing blows will add up a lot faster than Matt's will.

I'd say each would only get a really decisive, one hit KO a few times out of 10. Every time the fight drags on, Spiderman should win with his strength and stamina advantages. Peter, 7-8/10.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I'm not saying Daredevil couldn't dodge lasers. I'm saying a sniper with a laser from a long distance away would have a better chance at hitting Daredevil than Spiderman, because he wouldn't do much to get DD's attention, while SS would still kick in. However, DD's radar is more precise than spidey sense, and so it is more useful in places like crowded city streets for identifying hidden attackers and the like.

See Dizz, this is where we dissagree. From long distsnce away, les just say the SS does go off. He doesnt know theres a sniper with a lazer pointed at him. On the other hand, depending where the sniper is at, DD may or may not sense him until the shot is actually fired. And even then, DD may very well be able to move out of the way.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Not that much faster, but I'd still give an edge to Spiderman. DD is insanely fast, but so is Spiderman. Each one can pout the other down with one strike- Parker just needs a lot less precision. If both are indeed pretty even with speed, isn't it more feasible for Matt to get hit in the face or chest before he gets an opening to pull a nerve pinch on Spiderman? He's a good fighter, but his targets are a LOT smaller.

I wouldnt necessarily say that. DD has executed nerve hits in the chest, arm and hands. The chest is a very big target. Id say that would be easier to hit than the face. And with DD's training, skills and precise, its very likely that he wont miss.

Originally posted by Dizzle
I'd say, witten well, both would have a very hard time getting solid hits on the other. A nerve pinch doesn't take as much force as a haymaker, but it requires a lot of precision. I think Spiderman's strength wins this, ultimately, because his glancing blows will add up a lot faster than Matt's will.

We all know DD's attacks are very precise so i dont think that would be much of an issue. True Spideys glancing blows would eventually add up if DD doesnt go for the nerve hits, but that would take some time considering he didnt do so bad against others who are stronger than Spidey.

Originally posted by jrodslam
See Dizz, this is where we dissagree. From long distsnce away, les just say the SS does go off. He doesnt know theres a sniper with a lazer pointed at him. On the other hand, depending where the sniper is at, DD may or may not sense him until the shot is actually fired. And even then, DD may very well be able to move out of the way.

I wouldnt necessarily say that. DD has executed nerve hits in the chest, arm and hands. The chest is a very big target. Id say that would be easier to hit than the face. And with DD's training, skills and precise, its very likely that he wont miss.

We all know DD's attacks are very precise so i dont think that would be much of an issue. True Spideys glancing blows would eventually add up if DD doesnt go for the nerve hits, but that would take some time considering he didnt do so bad against others who are stronger than Spidey.

DD's fast. But he's not nearly as fast as you're making him out to be. I like DD, he's awesome and can kick some major ass. But he's just not in the same league as a bloodlusted (but still in character, you know what I mean) Spiderman. Spidey can make DD look motionless if he really wanted to. And yes, that's including his fighting speed.

And DD's radar sense is nowhere near that level that you speak of. If a sniper from...I dunno..300 yards (I'm just making up a long distance) away shot at him, DD would have NO TIME to move. Even if he hears the shot coming. Do you know how fast sniper rounds travel? Fast. Let's just leave it at that. Hell, if not for his Spider sense, Spidey couldn't dodge a sniper round either.

Anyway, Spidey should win everytime, or at least 9/10 times. Again, no offense to DD. But he's just not on par with a bloodlusted (in character) Spiderman.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
DD's fast. But he's not nearly as fast as you're making him out to be. I like DD, he's awesome and can kick some major ass. But he's just not in the same league as a bloodlusted (but still in character, you know what I mean) Spiderman. Spidey can make DD look motionless if he really wanted to. And yes, that's including his fighting speed.

And DD's radar sense is nowhere near that level that you speak of. If a sniper from...I dunno..300 yards (I'm just making up a long distance) away shot at him, DD would have NO TIME to move. Even if he hears the shot coming. Do you know how fast sniper rounds travel? Fast. Let's just leave it at that. Hell, if not for his Spider sense, Spidey couldn't dodge a sniper round either.

Anyway, Spidey should win everytime, or at least 9/10 times. Again, no offense to DD. But he's just not on par with a bloodlusted (in character) Spiderman.

Originally posted by thesilverspider
no don't say bloodlusted spiderman cause when he's bloodlusted he fights sloppy.............. 😂

That's exactly why I said "bloodlusted (in character)".

I'm following the definition of KMC's "bloodlust", where the character fights to the very best of his abilities everytime without CIS hindering him/her.

Using this logic, Spidey should win everytime or 99% of the time.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's exactly why I said "bloodlusted (in character)".

I'm following the definition of KMC's "bloodlust", where the character fights to the very best of his abilities everytime without CIS hindering him/her.

Using this logic, Spidey should win everytime or 99% of the time.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Crazytalk. If Spidey's fighting to his fullest, DD will get beaten to a pulp. He'll know the punches and or kicks are coming and he'll also know he can't do jack sh*t about it.

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DareDevil wouldnt need a Spider sense to know ten seconds before a bullet hits him that its coming. He would actually be on the offensive looking for the guy while spiderman would not.

So in theory DareDevils senses would never allow a Sniper to sneak up on him. Spiderman would still dodge the bullet but its a completely different circumstance.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
DareDevil wouldnt need a Spider sense to know ten seconds before a bullet hits him that its coming. He would actually be on the offensive looking for the guy while spiderman would not.

Yes spider-man is a pansy who would just let it slide that someone just tried to kill him.🙄

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
So in theory DareDevils senses would never allow a Sniper to sneak up on him. Spiderman would still dodge the bullet but its a completely different circumstance.

But he has snuck up on him. He was shot two issues back beacuse the sniper was so far away and in a helicopter. That would never happen to spider-man.
the sense not working because the sniper was so far away.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
DareDevil wouldnt need a Spider sense to know ten seconds before a bullet hits him that its coming. He would actually be on the offensive looking for the guy while spiderman would not.

yes Daredevil would have to try and rely on his on human training and reflexes whereas spidey is alerted how to avoid the danger and can rely on superhuman reflexes.

Originally posted by Jose123
But he has snuck up on him. He was shot two issues back beacuse the sniper was so far away and in a helicopter. That would never happen to spider-man.
the sense not working because the sniper was so far away.

Thats the problem with DD's senses it alerts him of danger, but he must decide himself what to do about it and then do it.

However Spidey is told by his spider-sense what to do, so he can immediately do it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
See Dizz, this is where we dissagree. From long distsnce away, les just say the SS does go off. He doesnt know theres a sniper with a lazer pointed at him. On the other hand, depending where the sniper is at, DD may or may not sense him until the shot is actually fired. And even then, DD may very well be able to move out of the way.

Maybe mine was a bad example. Basically, I mean that Spider sense is a little bit better for pure dodging, while Daredevil's radar gives him good dodging ability, and also helps with countering whatever it is that's threatening him.

I wouldnt necessarily say that. DD has executed nerve hits in the chest, arm and hands. The chest is a very big target. Id say that would be easier to hit than the face. And with DD's training, skills and precise, its very likely that he wont miss.

Arms and hands? These people and their comic martial arts... Crazy. I still think the point stands that hitting a spot on Spiderman ANYWHERE would be difficult, since he doesn't really try to block stuff. He just kinda gets out of the way of everything.

We all know DD's attacks are very precise so i dont think that would be much of an issue. True Spideys glancing blows would eventually add up if DD doesnt go for the nerve hits, but that would take some time considering he didnt do so bad against others who are stronger than Spidey.

He can be very precise, but it's harder to hit a specific spot when even touching your opponent at all would take a vey good amount of precision in itself. I'm not saying pressure points can't put down people stronger than Spidey (hey, Mantis stunned Thor and Juggernaut, I do believe...) but I'd like to see a time when DD used a pressure point strike on someone faster than Spidey. The issue is not that he'll resist it, my argument is that he moves too fast for DD to hit such small targets.

A punch to the chest is not the same as a pressure point on the chest... So while hitting someone in the stomach is easier than hitting him in the face, hitting a very small point on someone's chest is probably much harder than just smacking the guy in the face.

Not old school Spidey.

Peter- Hey Mary Jane wanna get a soda pop?

Mary Jane- No Peter, some of us have to work.

(A sniper is pointing his rifke)

Peter- Spider sense is tingling.

When did he ever know where the bullets were back in the day? New school Spidey is obviously a force to wrecken with I sappose.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Not old school Spidey.

Peter- Hey Mary Jane wanna get a soda pop?

Mary Jane- No Peter, some of us have to work.

(A sniper is pointing his rifke)

Peter- Spider sense is tingling.

When did he ever know where the bullets were back in the day? New school Spidey is obviously a force to wrecken with I sappose.

Powers have grown as he got older i guess.

and that wouldn't happen now. He knows were it's coming from and that there is danger. Maybe not what it is but that something is going to happen and it's coming from that direction.

Originally posted by Jose123
Powers have grown as he got older i guess.

and that wouldn't happen now. He knows were it's coming from and that there is danger. Maybe not what it is but that something is going to happen and it's coming from that direction.

✅ it only tells him what to do to avoid the danger. but if it tells him to duck, then its a safe guess something is coming overhead.

Yeah but DareDevil knows what it is.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Yeah but DareDevil knows what it is.

then he must decide what to do about it and than actualy perform what he wants to do about it. This will be a harder to do with human reflexes.

Spidey with SUPERHUMAN reflexes is immediately alerted on how to avoid the danger. Not only a quicker route than DD's but a better one.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Yeah but DareDevil knows what it is.

note when there far enough away.

That scene is still making me laugh. the way his face looks as the bullet hit him is just funny to me.