Originally posted by finti
with the material they used combined with all the animals that piece of a vessel named Noahs ark wouldnt be able to float, it would have been stuck to the ground due to its weight.
and how would you know this? obviously a lot of people here are not christian....well that doesn't matter. if it's not Noah's Ark then what is it? no one else can explain it. besides, the wood wouldn't rot because it WAS under a glacier and can then therefore have been preserved in a fossilized wood sort of way.
Originally posted by beaujay1
and how would you know this? obviously a lot of people here are not christian....well that doesn't matter. if it's not Noah's Ark then what is it? no one else can explain it. besides, the wood wouldn't rot because it WAS under a glacier and can then therefore have been preserved in a fossilized wood sort of way.
It could be anything... Like a smaller boat unrelated to the bible... Or it might not be wood at all. What was it that they found, a dark spot on a satellite picture? Yeah, every time they see a large, dark shape on a satellite photo, it's definitely Noah's ark.
And finti would know that because it's just common sense. You can't just take a ship, pack it with two of every animal in the world, and row your boat merrily down the stream. Like somebody else already said, you couldn't even fit all the species of INSECTS in the world on a boat and make it float.
And nobody's explained yet how it got in the glacier. As I said before, the last ice age was somewhere around 11000 years ago. The old testament was written more like 4000 years ago.
Originally posted by beaujay1
and how would you know this? obviously a lot of people here are not christian....well that doesn't matter. if it's not Noah's Ark then what is it? no one else can explain it. besides, the wood wouldn't rot because it WAS under a glacier and can then therefore have been preserved in a fossilized wood sort of way.
I agree with you completly. I mean what else would be that big?? There's no "scientific" explanation to what they have found in Anartica.
Originally posted by Darth Revan
It could be anything... Like a smaller boat unrelated to the bible... Or it might not be wood at all. What was it that they found, a dark spot on a satellite picture? Yeah, every time they see a large, dark shape on a satellite photo, it's definitely Noah's ark.And finti would know that because it's just common sense. You can't just take a ship, pack it with two of every animal in the world, and row your boat merrily down the stream. Like somebody else already said, you couldn't even fit all the species of INSECTS in the world on a boat and make it float.
And nobody's explained yet how it got in the glacier. As I said before, the last ice age was somewhere around 11000 years ago. The old testament was written more like 4000 years ago.
Like I said. We have to remember that this was thousands of years ago. Weren't the continents of the world closer together then and then over the years they spread apart?? I dunno. I'm not trying to come up with excuses, but like beaujay1 was saying, being in Anartica, the coldest continent on the planet, the wood wouldn't have rotted becuz it was perserved.
And as big as Noah's Ark was, it couldn't have been a "small" boat that they found. Not that huge. Noah's ark was like, what?? 3 or 4 football fields put together?? That's huge!
And um, hun, the ark could DEFANITLY float. Remember, it rained 40 days and 40 night, continously. It didn't stop. If it were to rain 40 days and 40 nights today, I guarentee you, we would see a lot heavier things than Noah's Ark float.
I mean, think about it? That's a lot of rain. Why wouldn't the ark be able to float??
Uh... You're missing my point. My point being that I don't believe there was a flood at all. But even if there had been, wood doesn't always float... If you get a log and you weigh it down with a bunch of rocks and throw it in the pond, it don't matter how much water's in there, it won't float.
And I misunderstood a little bit.. I thought you were talking about the one on Mt. Ararat.
Furthermore, even if it was 3 or 4 football fields put together, you couldn't pack all the animal species in the world x2 in it.
It took years for Noah to even build the ark. It didn't happen over night or in one day. It took years for Noah to even build the ark!
I firmly belive that you could have packed every single animal on the boat. I'll have to look up exactly how big the ark was, but yeah, two of every kind, very possible.
Furthermore, I'll have to look up what type of wood Noah used. If my memory serves me right, it was this special type of wood that doesn't rot easily, but like I said, I will look this up and tell you all.
you have to remember too though that the 'world' was a lot smaller back in biblical times, than the world we know today... I agree that there's not much chance that couples of even just every known species of animal in Africa would all fit on a boat that could still float, but the legend and myth of the story could still be based in some form of factual event... just because some African prophet type writer wrote that some crazy $hit built a boat and loaded every animal in their 'little world' by 2s onto the boat, doesnt mean there really was EVERY animal WE KNOW TODAY...
and, agree too that there could be any number of other folks, with other boats besides good ol' Noah from the block, now in the block of ice on the mountain or in Antarctica or where ever else they find blots or blips that they call boats... certainly with all the cray stories that DID make the cut and final print in the Bible as we know it, there were probably hundreds, thousands of twisted tales left on some editors desk or the famous circular file, or the bottom of some ancient paper shredder bin...
nice water-cooler chit chat, but essentially nothing to get all frazzled and furious over until there really is indisputable proof that there is something to talk about...
People who keep saying "its impossible to pack polar bears and jaguars into one boat! RAWRR!!" are just being ignorant. For the last time...
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE KNOWN WORLD 4000 years ago!
there is no north or south america so that counts out all the animals native to those continents...no australia..japan wasnt founded...so its mostly just animals in the middle east..middle east is the desert mostly and there are not to many diffrnt types of animals out there. put the piece together people and THINK. Thank you
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE KNOWN WORLD 4000 years ago!known to whom?
There where people living all over this globe 4000 years ago, up here in the North under the receding glaciers, in both American continents, Asia and the pacific islands and so on.
So what is the known world???
Known to those who wrote the bible?, cause this clearly shows the flaws of the biblical stories, it cant comprehend with either time nor logic.
And that the boat measured 450, 75, 45 feet built out of wood just underline the statement of it being to way too heavy too float even without the animals.
It took years for Noah to even build the ark. It didn't happen over night or in one day. It took years for Noah to even build the ark!it would have taken a couple of decades maybe more for even for a whole crew of people to build something as big as that ark was suppose to be( according to the bible the crew was just Noah, his wife, their three sons and three daughters-in-law.it seems difficult to imagine how such a small crew could even feed all these animals in a single day.)
Problems after the flood. What about the animals after the flood, how would they get food, since there were only two of each species a lot of animals would go instinct as soon as the predator got to go hunting again. Not that that would be too much of a problem since there were so spears of animals to hunt.
Originally posted by RoguePw25
I just looked up some info. the ark was 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. (If you want the scripture, PM me)It was built from resinous wood, which is genosha wood or something in the king james version??
that's pretty big.
uh... no. That's pretty big, indeed, but there is still no freaking way you could fit two of every animal in the world, let alone just one... If the flood really covered the entire world, like some Christians claim, and not just a smaller, localized area...
Could someone (btw) give me a link to “THEY (who?) found a dark spot on a satellite picture of the South-pole, so it must be Noah’s Ark.”
I’m sorry, but look at the statement! It’s hilarious. WHAT is the Ark doing on the South-pole? How do you know it’s not a fossilized whale?
Pangea (the original continent) split up during the Jurassic Period (fer pete’s sake) that’s more than 145 million years ago!
”And as big as Noah's Ark was, it couldn't have been a "small" boat that they found. Not that huge. Noah's ark was like, what?? 3 or 4 football fields put together?? That's huge!”
Yeah, right! HOW would you fit two of every single species on Earth on such a ”small” boat (compared to the number of species (PLANTS and ANIMALS on Earth).
Do you know how HEAVY the Ark would be with that cargo? I you fill a tanker with too much weight I guaranee you it WON’T float. Everything you put on water won’t float, hon. No matter HOW long it rains. Try making a concrete pillar float.
Or are you saying that if it just rains long enough ANYTHING can float?
Why didn’t Noah record all the millions of different species of plants and animals, so we’d know the exact number?
“The United Nations Environment Programme's (UNEP) Global Biodiversity Assessment is often cited, which estimates the number of described species at approximately 1.75 million.” http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/58.html
Now, double that number and realise that some animals weigh more than a ton. Now, fit that amount into a space that’s 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high.
Kidrock> Are you saying Northamerica didn’t contain animals 4000 years ago?
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