As anything really certain?

I'm not a soldier 😛

nothing is really certain 😉

/\are you certain about that?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No matter what logical point you put forwards Gregory, Fire's point stands. You could be mistaken and not not realise it. The basis of the sceptical hypothesis is that there is virtually nothing that a person can be totally certain is so.

In other words ... it is certain that any point I raise may be wrong?

yes it may be wrong, it may be right either

But it can't be a certainty that there are no certainties, because if it is, there is one. There has to at least be one certainty, even if it is only that there are no others.

No, it's not certain, he just doesn't know. The point is, he can doubt the accuracy of your information. There is only one thing you can try and doubt, and fail to find reasonable ground for that.

idd as ush said I do not know wether or not there is something or nothing certain, I am wondering about it

Okay, here's a certainty for you: Either there are certainties, or there are not.

Assuming causal logic is correct. That can be doubted.

There's no point trying to hammer this down, Gregory.

Okay, I can do this: Either there are certainties, there are no certainties, or casual logic is incorrect.

This sort of thing makes me think; that's enough of a point for me.

That is still looking at it from a point of view of causal logic. It is an entirely pointless line to take, because this philosophy is too boring to be argued with. There may be a billion other options your perception is being affected so you cannot comprehend.

Like I say, there is only one thing, in sceptic philosophy, that the thinker can be certain of, and that is his own existence, because even in doubting it the thinker has to concede that he must exist to be able to doubt it.

I'm not certain about this thread

Originally posted by eleveninches
/\are you certain about that?

yeah, just like that whole, if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound? certain things only our brain can process as happenings...so since our eyes only have certain pigments in them that can absorb colors wavelenghts, it's possible that there are many more colors that we cannot see because of our limited brain space and what and what not it can detect.

Originally posted by beaujay1
yeah, just like that whole, if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, did it make a sound?

Yes. Sound waves, anyway.

how do you know?

If you espouse the philosophy being discussed here, I don't--but by that philosophy, you don't know that there's a sound even if someone is present, since it could just be a halucination. It might be more proper to say that I am convinced, too my satisfaction that there is no link between the creation of soundwaves and the prescence of an observer.

i skipped the other 6 pgs...
to answer the very first question:
NO. We are not meant to be happy.
WE are meant to suffer and learn from our suffering
Ultimately nothing is ever certain.
What works one day DOES NOT always work the next.
Everything that you thought was good can turn around on you and bite your face off.
That is what I am CERTAIN of.
NOTHING can be a sure thing.
NOTHING can be trusted.
THERE is NO such thing as a sure thing.
Everything that is hoped for and dreamed for is a waste.
I dont believe in fate
I dont even know if i believe in God.
THE UNIVERSE IS RULED BY CHAOS
and nothing can change that.

happiness? talk about that to someone who believes in dreams.
There is no such thing as happiness.

how do you knowall that ? 😄