Originally posted by scibott in The Official Symbiote Thread
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Don't post anything in the topics that have nothing added for more than two(2) weeks. Am I understood? The reason being, that they died for a reason, and that reason occurred to end unnecessary or worn out topics. Leave it at that!
Originally posted by ThePsychoWithin
Brad Pitt? No way man.Venom - Howie Long
Carnage - Steve Buscemi
On both of these I say...trust me. Lol.
P.S: I'm new here. Just signed up. What's up everybody?
If Howie were 15 years younger, he'd be perfect for the role of Brock, BUT if he were 15 years younger, he'd also be pretty busy playing football. You are not the first person to suggest Howie, but he is simply too old for the part.
The role of Kasady should be played by Jake Busey. NO ONE else seems right for this role to me...and I have thought about it.
Oh, hey, Hostile. Nice to see you back. 😉
Well, he doesn't have a hard look, to me. And yes, I'd like an actor who with sharper features. I want the face and body lean, hungry, narrow. Kasady's mind itself is so compressed, contorted, cornered, and vicious. Damn, I want a face that looks like the mind- like something that grew without any room being made for it, something that forces itself in. Sharp, narrow, hard.
There's something too smug about Busey. I don't actually think Kasady's smug; I think he feels like an underdog. He feels he's always fighting.
I could be wrong about Busey. I don't know- tell me the one film in which you feel he best projects a kind of vengeful relentless HARDNESS. I'll check it out- becuase really, I don't watch many films, so I'm sure not familiar with his acting. Point me at it. I'll make it my homework.
Oh, God, they just took a run away from the Yankees cause A-Rod knocked the ball out of Bronson Arroyo's hand as he was trying to tag him out. Anyway....
I think I saw Busey in a movie called "Home Fries" with Drew Barrymore and one of the Wilson brothers, I don't know if it was Owen or Luke (I think it was Luke, though). I thought it would be some stupid chick-flick, but it was kind of dark, and Busey and Wilson were, like, helicopter pilots--Oh, I have no idea, but I remember the way Busey smiled--there was something sinister about it. That's about all I remember--just the smile.
Home Fries, it is, then. I'll reserve final judgement until I see it, but it doesn't sound too promising. Kasady's more than a sinister smile and red hair, though it's true that I give the impression otherwise, the way I go on about the red and the hair and the redness of the hair and how it's messy curly and red and...
See, I saw that movie, and he didn't register with me, evidently. Now, if I saw Kasady, that man would register!
It's not the manic homicidal glee, and the red hair alone. It's the sneering, hedonistic, full-throttle rebellion of the man. The charactor has to be portrayed fully in a movie to satisfy me. You have to see his WILLFULLNESS- how he will not submit to any authority no matter how assured his punishment. He had 11 life terms. He was going to kill Brock, in the cell, with NO attempt at concealment, putting himself in a Supermax solitary cell for the rest of his life, I'm sure. Why? Not because he's impulsive (though he is) but because NOT killing Brock promptly merely becuase it would f~ck up his life WENT AGAINST KASADY'S VALUES.
You all see a nutjob. I see a man with integrity.
Kasady's POV: society is invalid, it's laws and sanctions are invalid. He fights the good fight, though he can't win, and at this point, being himself, uncompromised, is more important than the consequences of his actions.
His only power, anyway, is to win by resisting society's control. The more of its punishments he dares and endures, the less power society is left with. An outside observer would look at Kasady in his little lonely dark cell- and think, this guy has totally f~cked himself out of every freedom.
However, that's not how Kasady sees it. To him, he's as free as anyone can be- because he does not play along with the system, giving his autonomy over to it, following it's rules, in exchange for "rights" that are conditional, unequally distributed, and rather miserly in comparison to what he feels he could obtain for himself. His vision is to live and prosper by the strategy of ferocity in one-on-one interpersonal dealings. He won't compromise his vision just because, say, an organized special-interest group, many millions strong, known as America, has co-opted his life.
Why? Well, because society can punish, yes, but it can't reward him. The only thing Kasady wants is what it doesn't want him to have. He does NOT want its "human rights." He thinks they're an insult, not worthy of him.
So he bites the hand that offers them. Eat this, America! He throws his food back in the guards' faces. He keeps doing as he damn well pleases, and lets society do its worst. He won't quit, and that's his victory. It's sweet. Even in a tiny cell, very sweet.
NOW, can Busey do that?
If he can, I'll take him!
But I don't want him based on the fact that he has red hair! It's called hair dye, and I say, use it. Get a tremendous actor who can give Kasady a psychotic priest of anarchy, champion of chaos, enemy of the system kind of depth.
His craziness is not just bouncing round killing people. It's a fanaticism. It's a self-worship cult.
Oh, yeh, it's the killing, too! And the baby-throwing. Sweet! There's never been a nastier jack-@ss, how can you not LOVE this charactor? He's the ultimate bad apple.
You know I feel the exact same way about Brock. The traits of these characters--their demeanors and essences are akin to our own.
You like the "bad apple", I like the apple that could go either way.
And, I will admit, you've softened my views about Kasady--made him more 3-dimensional to me, added depth to my perception of him. So, how do you like them apples, sister?
Love 'em. I'm glad you've taken some interest in him. He's a charactor too many times dismissed as a stock maniac, by writers as well as readers. More work needs to be done with him- but he's so open, that gives me a lot of room to work him out for myself, which is stimulating.
I have plans, big plans, for Eddie, too. He had fantastic direction as the guardian of the homeless in S.F. So much to do with that...
You're reserving judgement on the current Venom story in MKS? Happy with it? Appalled? I haven't seen you post word one about Fortunado.