Originally posted by leonheartmm
yes but that is your unproven oppinion. using that as an axiom in an argument which is actually SUPPOSED to prove the existance of god makes the argument fallacious and circular. thats my pointyour disproven opinion again. with all due respect you should learn the meanings of the words "implicit" and "obvious"
ofcourse i can prove that macroevolution has occured. no1 says that the big bang started from nothing. other universes and quantum flucutation have a vast reportoire of evidence behind them, unlike god. we have very good theories on how galaxies form and what makes them spin{its called gravity}.
A matter of faith no doubt but the Bible has held up under intense scrutiny so my faith is well founded.
You challenged me to prove that God is not natural. It is common knowledge that He is not. That is why I used the term implicitly obvious.
You cannot prove that macroevolution has occurred--no one can. It is scientific belief that quantum fluctuations caused the big bang from nothing (naturally) i.e. spontaneously. There is no proof of any other universe, and quantum fluctuation is far from being understood let alone proven. The whole case for dark matter is proof that the scientific community is at a loss for explaining how galaxies remain intact when there is not enough mass for them to. They don't understand why galaxies have not dispersed at the speeds that they spin.
Originally posted by Keith Talent
That is precisely how a scientific theory works, and the reason why ID is not a scientific theory. It cannot be researched, modified or falsified.
But the evidence continues to contradict their theories. So they scramble to find a theory that denies God but somehow fits their model/explanation.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But the evidence continues to contradict their theories. So they scramble to find a theory that denies God but somehow fits their model/explanation.
I have never seen a scientific theory that denies god. And I have no clue of what contradicting evidence you are talking about.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
you are a liar. you have provided all your sources and evidence and you have still being conclusively proven to be a liar by nearly every1 on this forum. your empty claim means nothing.and who is this quote by?!?!? lmao YOU?! it proves NOTHING since it isnt the position the vast majority of the scientific community and EVIDENCE, might i add, take on the subject. nice strawman to bach jia.
no it isnt since no1 is claiming the quantum fluctuations are uncaused MORON!!!!!!!
so your argument is, that the scientific community is ignorant, wasteful and that science as it stands is compareable to illegal drugs, prostituion and porn and that the collective scientific community's only motivation for following string theory is that they are atheists and afraid of the possibility of god??? did i get everything.
your MORON of the nth degree.
and the specific amount of melanin is controlled by a gene and each alleale {type of the gene} gives rise to ONE level of melanin and ONE skin colour. going by biology, there could not have been more than 4 types of skin colours in the human race if it came from adam and eve and if evolution cud not produce significantly visible, benefitial change in the timeframe of humanity{as you claim}.
for the last time STOP BEING A MORON!!!!! read a god damn biology book. two people can NOT have more than 4 different types {alleales} of each GENE!!!!!!!!! adam and eve CUD NOT have posessed genes to produce all varieties and ethnicities!!!!!!!!!!!! science contradicts your CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!
and please do not type if you dont actually have a reasonable argument to make.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
you are a liar. you have provided all your sources and evidence and you have still being conclusively proven to be a liar by nearly every1 on this forum. your empty claim means nothing.
Red shift, cosmic microwave background radiation, 2nd L.o.T. all prove the universe had a beginning.
Not one of those is false so why do you accuse me of being a liar?
and who is this quote by?!?!? lmao YOU?! it proves NOTHING since it isnt the position the vast majority of the scientific community and EVIDENCE, might i add, take on the subject. nice strawman to bach jia.
It validates what I affirmed to you.
no it isnt since no1 is claiming the quantum fluctuations are uncaused MORON!!!!!!!
Very well, what causes quantum fluctuations?
so your argument is, that the scientific community is ignorant, wasteful and that science as it stands is compareable to illegal drugs, prostituion and porn and that the collective scientific community's only motivation for following string theory is that they are atheists and afraid of the possibility of god??? did i get everything.
No, those are your words. I simply pointed out the fact that vast, financial expenditure on research does not validate the research any more than substantial outlay on illegal drugs, prostitution, porn, or drunkenness validates those things.
I can only speculate as to motivation just like you.
your MORON of the nth degree.
How many times must I point out your inability to control your rage? I am starting to suspect that you need psychological help. But this is not meant to demean you but to raise your awareness. I don’t want you to hurt someone because you cannot control your actions.
and the specific amount of melanin is controlled by a gene and each alleale {type of the gene} gives rise to ONE level of melanin and ONE skin colour. going by biology, there could not have been more than 4 types of skin colours in the human race if it came from adam and eve and if evolution cud not produce significantly visible, benefitial change in the timeframe of humanity{as you claim}.
Again, these links offer a valid explanation:
“Thus, we conclude that the dispersion at Babel broke up a large interbreeding group into small, interbreeding groups. This ensured that the resultant groups would have different mixes of genes for various physical features. By itself, this dispersion would ensure, in a short time, that there would be certain fixed differences in some of these groups, commonly called “races.” In addition, the selection pressure of the environment would modify the existing combinations of genes so that the physical characteristics of each group would tend to suit their environment.
There has been no simple-to-complex evolution of any genes, for the genes were present already. The dominant features of the various people groups result from different combinations of previously existing created genes, plus some minor degenerative changes, resulting from mutation (accidental changes which can be inherited). The originally created (genetic) information has been either reshuffled or has degenerated, but has not been added to.”
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-skincolor.html
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
for the last time STOP BEING A MORON!!!!! read a god damn biology book. two people can NOT have more than 4 different types {alleales} of each GENE!!!!!!!!! adam and eve CUD NOT have posessed genes to produce all varieties and ethnicities!!!!!!!!!!!! science contradicts your CLAIM!!!!!!!!!!
Answered above.
and please do not type if you dont actually have a reasonable argument to make.
Likewise?