Agnostics or Atheists

Started by Shakyamunison17 pages

Originally posted by Mindship
Wasn't the "inaccurate models" approach something like what Einstein preferred? Ie, he opted for "hidden variables," a kind of "physics of the gaps" which would later account for the apparent weirdness of quantum physics.

Anyway, I try to catch whatever science/physics/cosmology shows pop up on the science channels for overall views and then defer to google for details or follow-up (or just now and then, I hit google anyway with keywords, just to see what crops up). I'd love to be able to understand even 1/100th of the math involved on the real physics sites, but since I can't, I grok what I can from them pertty computer graphics.

Afaik, regarding proof of parallel u's...ain't nothin' yet. But I do have faith (yeah, I said it) in the suspicions of J.B.S. Haldane ("The universe is not only weirder than we imagine, it is weirder than we can imagine"😉 and Eden Phillpotts ("The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper"😉.

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What are you smoking? 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What are you smoking? 😛
Something which is not making my wits sharper.

Originally posted by Mindship
Something which is not making my wits sharper.

😆 What?😐

Originally posted by Mindship
Wasn't the "inaccurate models" approach something like what Einstein preferred? Ie, he opted for "hidden variables," a kind of "physics of the gaps" which would later account for the apparent weirdness of quantum physics.

Anyway, I try to catch whatever science/physics/cosmology shows pop up on the science channels for overall views and then defer to google for details or follow-up (or just now and then, I hit google anyway with keywords, just to see what crops up). I'd love to be able to understand even 1/100th of the math involved on the real physics sites, but since I can't, I grok what I can from them pertty computer graphics.

Afaik, regarding proof of parallel u's...ain't nothin' yet. But I do have faith (yeah, I said it) in the suspicions of J.B.S. Haldane ("The universe is not only weirder than we imagine, it is weirder than we can imagine"😉 and Eden Phillpotts ("The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper"😉.

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ya, it is sort of like the Einstein "physics of the gaps" thing. I heard someone express it within the past couple of years, and they did a way better job than I could, but like, the conclusion seemed to me that scientists were just mystery mongering.

I totally agree about the universe being weird and magical (and about wishing to understand math), but I'm hesitant to accept the way more incredible ramifications of quantum theory as we currently understand it. I totally admit, however, this might be (and likely is) caused by my own ignorance of the subject and my desire to not believe things which seem irrational.

I'm close to a Canadian city called Waterloo, where something called the Perimeter Institute is located. It is a center for the research of theoretical physics, and they have days open to the public all the time. I try to go to those, but I feel they are just a little too low brow for me (or they are just ridiculously highbrow). lol, and the one on quantum computing made me pretty biased against quantum physicists as individuals.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What?
Why? Your wits too sharp?

Originally posted by inimalist
I heard someone express it within the past couple of years, and they did a way better job than I could, but like, the conclusion seemed to me that scientists were just mystery mongering.
The math is a potent, reliable description of QM reality. Nobody knows why.

Originally posted by Mindship
Why? Your wits too sharp?...

No, not sharp at all today. But if yours had been sharper, then you wouldn't have had to ask. 😛 😂

I'm as sharp as 11 beers will let me 😄

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I'm as sharp as 11 beers will let me 😄
😆 I would be passed out.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 I would be passed out.
12 beers and and a vodka and MD drink and still going strong 😄

Originally posted by Da Pittman
12 beers and and a vodka and MD drink and still going strong 😄

puke

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
puke
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