Agnostics or Atheists

Is anybody here an agnostic or an atheist? Me? I'm an agnostic. I think that there is a slight chnace that there may be a higher power, but right now it seems pretty unlikely. I'm gonna need some proof before I go back to believin'. Anyone else?

I mean I used to think I was an atheist, but now that seems a bit extreme.

Are you telling me there are no non-beleivers here?

I’m an atheist. Probably even a strong atheist (meaning I believe that gods do not and cannot exist, as opposed to weak atheism which is just the lacking belief in Gods http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/intro.html).

I have never seen any proof or evidence of any higher being. The existence of one or more such seems illogical to me, because if you go down that road, you end up with irrationality.
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i agree with the Queen herself, The Omega on this one. Atheist for the same reasons.

Originally posted by Arahael
Is anybody here an agnostic or an atheist? Me? I'm an agnostic. I think that there is a slight chnace that there may be a higher power, but right now it seems pretty unlikely. I'm gonna need some proof before I go back to believin'. Anyone else?

I don't get it. If you said you have doubts then why believe? If you chosen to question your faith that's fine. If you need proof of a higher being then seek philosophical inquires. Don't settle for just mere scientific discoveries. There are plenty of things that the mind cannot grasp. Science isn't everything, there is more to life than the mechanics behind an object.

I dont know, their could be something, I have my views on what it is but I won't be disappointed if it isn't there

So what are you saying WinnDancer? That you actually believe?

Sorry I meant WindDancer.

I'm not religious as in faithful believer. I tend to think that God is a philosophical being that uses the mind to communicate with humans. For me the thinking mind is what really matters in existence. It can be consider a bridge between us and that unknown universe that hasn't been found. For me is all about a philosophical mind. At the same time I encourage ppl to question their own reasoning.

Anyway, Philospophy is alright I suppose, but without real, tangible evidence you really don't have any support for your arguement.

But what do you consider reality?

What do you mean?

Everything you see in the world consist of objects. Certain objects have changes. What causes those changes? In other words why is there change in the world? Science can explain the mechanics but about the reasons behind those changes? What is their purpose? That's what I aim with the question of reality.

What makes you think the laws of physics have a reason? Why can't they just be?

There are chnages in the world becuase everything is constantly evolving.

Gregory> I don't question the laws of physics, what I question is mostly the origin of the movement. Is there a prime mover that cause the reaction in the first place? or is all matter constanly working that make the causes happen?. I tend to think that everything has a reason. Including things like a phenomenon.

I am a strong Agnostic...and skeptic too.

So..Congrats Arahael...And:

"An Agnostic does not accept any `authority' in the sense in which religious people do. He holds that a man should think out questions of conduct for himself. Of course, he will seek to profit by the wisdom of others, but he will have to select for himself the people he is to consider wise..."

Bertrand Russel

"The agnostic will find his ends in his own heart and not in an external command"

Bertrand Russel

I'm pretty sure that it's the constnat movement of matter that causes reactions and change. I've never expereinced a phenomenom.

http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/humftp/E-text/Russell/agnostic.htm