Do guns in the home make us safer?

Started by cLoVi€11 pages

no

Originally posted by finti
there are safetys lock on assault weapons and machine guns too.

There are also gun racks that can be locked so that no one without the key can access the gun.

Guns aint the problem, people are

Good point! It comes down to the resposibility of the owner to keep his/her gun locked.

drop the crap hippies. If you don't think owning a gun makes you any safer, then ship yourself to a middle eastern country like Iraq and then tell me how useless guns are. All the people who have anti-gun beliefs all live in a society where local governments fund police protection.

And most of you who are anti-gun probably have never fired a sidearm in your life.

Ignorant, uneducated people, crooks, theives, and gangsters are what make guns in the home unsafe. They're careless about where they put their gun, they don't teach their children how dangerous they are, and they don't take the necessary precautions to ensure it's safe use.

All i know is that no one's ever stepped foot on the United States to invade, but when that time comes....i'll be sitting on my porch with my shot gun, rockying chair, and whittling knife ready.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
drop the crap hippies. If you don't think owning a gun makes you any safer, then ship yourself to a middle eastern country like Iraq and then tell me how useless guns are. All the people who have anti-gun beliefs all live in a society where local governments fund police protection.

It it those ppl with guns that makes Iraq so dangerous. There are countries swho spend more money on guns than food.

Once again, thank you for your opinions. They have helped me prepare my proect, so now comes the debate in my class.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
drop the crap hippies. If you don't think owning a gun makes you any safer, then ship yourself to a middle eastern country like Iraq and then tell me how useless guns are. All the people who have anti-gun beliefs all live in a society where local governments fund police protection.

And most of you who are anti-gun probably have never fired a sidearm in your life.

Ignorant, uneducated people, crooks, theives, and gangsters are what make guns in the home unsafe. They're careless about where they put their gun, they don't teach their children how dangerous they are, and they don't take the necessary precautions to ensure it's safe use.

All i know is that no one's ever stepped foot on the United States to invade, but when that time comes....i'll be sitting on my porch with my shot gun, rockying chair, and whittling knife ready.

Man Link, That was the most awesome thing I'll hear all day.

Well in the United States, the reason why they allow citizens to posses a firearm is because of the amendment in the constitution that was created in the time when a local Militia was needed.

Now adays, there really is no need for a local mililtia, but in the event of some cataclismic nightmare where anarchy reigns supreme....I'd sure the hell feel a lot safer protecting my family and remaining rations with a gun rather than using my verbal powers of persuasion.

Yeah I agree. I don't feel safe unless i have a gun in my house.

They're 'illegal' in the UK, but it is very easy indeed to acquire them on the black market. In some areas the police are a total non presence - one man even made a video tape of himself proudly totting an 'illegal' firearm in the middle of the road in such an abandoned area; the sort of place that contrasts with anywhere the Macpherson report criteria operate!

Originally posted by Linkalicious
drop the crap hippies. If you don't think owning a gun makes you any safer, then ship yourself to a middle eastern country like Iraq and then tell me how useless guns are. All the people who have anti-gun beliefs all live in a society where local governments fund police protection.

And most of you who are anti-gun probably have never fired a sidearm in your life.

Ignorant, uneducated people, crooks, theives, and gangsters are what make guns in the home unsafe. They're careless about where they put their gun, they don't teach their children how dangerous they are, and they don't take the necessary precautions to ensure it's safe use.

All i know is that no one's ever stepped foot on the United States to invade, but when that time comes....i'll be sitting on my porch with my shot gun, rockying chair, and whittling knife ready.

Its because of people with opinions like yours that are the reason America has a rising gun problem. UK gun problem has declining, not very sagnificantly, but still...

I am very anti-gun, but i have fired the weapon while back (released that its not as easy as it looks in the films) being anti-gun has nothing to do with someone not having fired the gun before or heald it or whatever.

Guns are dangerous, and as mentioned before, it is dangerous for the family in whos house the gun is. I mean seriously, what would happen if everyone had a gun??
Look at the gun problem you people have in USA, its rediculous, they are so easy to access, and i think the Columbine incindent proved what happens when a kid gets a hold of one.

Linalicious, I have in fact fired a gun before in a rifle range but had difficulty hitting the wooden target.

im a mother of 4 beautiful girls & it is my duty to teach them about the pros & cons of gun ownership . i will not allow guns in my house . you never know when an accident can happen . i could not forgive myself if something were to happen to one of my duaghters becuase of someones carelessness with a gun in my house . that being said this is america & we do have the right to bare arms rather it be for protection or hunting , i understand why . i just hope when children are involved common since is used & the guns are in a safe that only the parent knws the combination to .

k guys read my post over again... see that word probably? need i explain its meaning?

People like me are most certainly not the reason why the United States has a problem with guns...and shame on you for even saying that. I've been to training classes, classes on proper gun maintainence, and on safe keeping in the home. People like me are the reason why the NRA exsist. Because we believe in proper gun use.

Cars are dangerous too. Car accidents kill more people each year than gun violence. Ever care to ask yourself.....what would happen if everyone had a car? It's no different....and just as dangerous. If a kid grabs the car keys and decides to take dad's BMW for a spin...is that really any less dangerous than that same kid holding a gun in his hand?

NO

It just depends on how stupid the kid is. Columbine taught us one thing...some kids are just morons. They are the same kids that set people's hair on fire because Beavis kept saying "fire, fire" and the same kids that shoot at people driving their cars down the highway.

Taking away guns isn't going to eliminate ignorant little morons...

good point

*Following Link's point on cars* The US driving test is so easy that it amounts to the same thing 😛

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Its because of people with opinions like yours that are the reason America has a rising gun problem. UK gun problem has declining, not very sagnificantly, but still...

Look at the gun problem you people have in USA, its rediculous, they are so easy to access, and i think the Columbine incindent proved what happens when a kid gets a hold of one.

The United States increasing gun violence problem I will place squarely on this whole Gangster Hip Hop crap that EVERYONE loves oh-so-dearly. I don't hear nearly as many British rappers as I do American rappers...infact, i can't think of any significant ones.

You have role models like 50 cent who do nothing but rap about how they managed to become swiss cheese by playing with guns. But instead of promoting some anti-gun message these sons of b!tches take their shirts off and sport their scars like a damn fashion item.

That and I'm almost 100% positive there isn't a square block of England that could compare to Watts or Martin Luther King Blvd. in South Central, Los Angeles.

The Columbine Incident just managed to show how truly ignorant some redneck children are in middle America. Way to use two kids who wear trench coats in beautiful 80 degree weather as an example of "normal" Ameican children.

As I said, I would have no problems with guns if they weren't so easy for anyone to obtain.

I assume it's still possible to buy 'em in Walmart?

Don't you get them free with certain packets of cereals in the US?

😂 Pretty much.

The point I was trying to make when I said that children do not know any better was that by having a gun in you house, you are making it accessible to all of those residing under that very roof. You can lock it up, but locks are easy to get around.

Besides, if you have a gun, do you really want to have to unlock something to protect your family? In that time, you could be dead, or a loved one could be as well.

With all the safety issues you need to go though in order to have a gun... it is not worth it.

"Damn! Someone is breaking into our house. Better unlock the lockbox, get the ammo from its hiding place, take the safety off, ensure it is loaded properly." After the 20 mins your spent attempting to 'save your family,' you could have called the police and had this gentleman arrested by then.

There are much safer ways to protect your household then to 'fight fire with fire.'