Moral issues on the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

To resort to such a comment? How would a Japanese person feel if he/she was on these forums, reading things like:

''Call it immoral, call it inhuman, call it whatever you want. It got the job done and it served it's purpose. Has war ever really been humane to begin with?''

Tell me? Hows that ment to make them feel??

Exactly what he wrote, has War ever been humane? He did not specify a singular occurence, you actually mentioned a tragic event that happened quite recently, in order to prove one of your own points.

This discussion is pointless Lils, I was simply trying to tell you that by saying what you did it made you sound very cold, is all.....

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
OH please!

Do re-read what you yourself wrote...FFS!

*It sent a message to the rest of the world what happens when you bring war to the front door of the US.

I think the key phrase there being ''the rest of the world''.

Like I said...i dont see anyone trembeling at US's feet....

Read my next post...i clarify that statement. Stop selectively reading my arguements in order to strengthen your own.

I never said "trembling at the US's feet".....you did. I said that no organized military would pick a fight with the US on US soil, because i think our outrageous acts of the past may have deterred that possibility.

Honestly. I'd be very interested in seeing what would happen to a country if they ordered their military forces to attack US soil. I can guarentee they will be sorry....very very sorry.

It is pointless indeed. YOU made it out as if i was supporting what happened to American on the spet 11, and i found that quite offencive, since i suggested no such thing. You also should re-read my post.

Second of all, there is no differance between civilians in America and those in UK and those in Japan and those in Iraq...they are all civilians...no differance...none! And any civilains killing by military for whicher reason, that ever happened is the shittiest most cowardly act, the lowest of the low!

Ya, right, Milla gets stressed out again.

When are we going to be able to have a civilised discussion, without getting so defensive about one another's comments? If we are to come into threads like these and make bold statements, surely we should all learn to take criticism. Anyone who assumes everyone else will always agree, or even always understand, is being extremely silly in my opinion.

I think that it is a contradiction to say War and morality in the same argument. For ages civilians have been victims of countless war campaigns in the past. As technology is advancing more and more civilians are most likely to get kill in wars.

I think that using anti nuclear treaties works better. Look at the Vietnam war. The US could done the same thing to Communist Vietnam as they did to the Japanese. But because of the treaties. The USA only use regular bombs instead of Nuclear bombs. I'm don't mean to bash Science, but sometimes I wish Scientist weren't so smart. But because they are brilliant the military exploits them all the time.

Originally posted by Syren
Ya, right, Milla gets stressed out again.

When are we going to be able to have a civilised discussion, without getting so defensive about one another's comments? If we are to come into threads like these and make bold statements, surely we should all learn to take criticism. Anyone who assumes everyone else will always agree, or even always understand, is being extremely silly in my opinion.

You warent critisisng, you were acusing me of certain things, please learn the differance.
Im not being defencive, i am telling everything from my point of view, just like you are...

We were having a covilised discussion, long before you came into thread, i dont see why we cant again, but do refrain from assuming and accusing.

OK, I apologise for my apparent accusations, although I don't know exactly what I accused you of. If you're going to pick everyone else's posts apart, surely you should be more prepared when someone does the same to you.

Lil, I really don't think we should take this any further, it's obvious I offended you and I'm sorry. But I do think you could have been a little more careful with that planes comment hun......

guys this has gone way beyond the topic, so either bring it back on topic or it WILL BE CLOSED
(now everyone gets the hint of WHY we closed down POLITICS)

For the greater good of humanity. It was good that they dropped the bomb...

NOT because it killed so many people.....that's the downside.

It was good because of the lesson everyone learned about nuclear war.

kinda agree with you on that statement link

yah.

I don't like to think of it like this at all, but you kinda gotta wonder...

If the US didn't drop the bomb...then who would have? It scares me to think that a European country (ally or not) would ever use it against another European country because i think the result would be more catastrophic.

I don't see the difference really, and that's all speculation anywayz

I ask that once regarding discussing politics in a historic way. I was told that wasn't allowed either! So I'm not surprise this thread when off near the edge. This thread will most likely bringin more politicals views.

of course it's speculation, but it's a possiblity i wouldn't like to think about.

I think hitting main land Europe would be more catastrophic because the water around the Japanese islands felt some after effect of the bomb....if that was just more land...it woulda been worst.

Man even talking about your favorite sports teams requires getting somewhat political now a days. That's all this world is anyways.....just a big political melting pot.

I agree with that ✅

Every conversation nowadays ends up being political, philosophical or just some futile debate that's going nowhere, but is still enjoyed......

Guys, this isn't a generic world war 2 history thread, don't turn it into one.

Also, everyone calm down. The bomb was dropped 70 years ago or whatever, no need getting upset over it now.

that sorta eliminates 90% of the material to talk about.

ummm....ya....there was a bomb! 😄

I think we should make a generic WWII thread 😛

secondly the bomb was dropped almost 59 years ago BF 😛 summer of 1945