Originally posted by The Omega
Link> I usually trust Lil Bitchiness’ research. But yes, I do believe women are “build” with a higher pain threshold, because from what I hear – giving birth hurts like hell. So if it does, nature probably came up with women handling pain better. Maybe it’s simply better endurance.
well maybe in general this is true, but you will also find males who have a higher pain threshold than women. I don't think this is a real base for anything.
Originally posted by Fire
*I probably role play more than you do since it is my main hobby outside of KMC 😛, I just role play when it is appropriate and on KMC outside of the RPG section it is NOT imo.*yep syren but is personal 🙂
Really? I had no idea.
I know that outside the RPG section is inappropriate, but the G Club hasn't been moved, I don't think anyone is going to move it. So, by your definition I should stop role play in there altogether, as it's in the wrong place? 😗
And also, my Harry Potter Parody was moved to the UHRP section, and it's a story. 🤨
Link> Yes, I think we discussed from two different views on pain threshold. With that in mind we’ve been talking past each other.
Fire> Sure you can find men with a high pain threshold. But in general women have a higher pain threshold. That doesn’t mean men are weaklings, they grind their teeth and endure it.
Lady von Tramp> Well, I found a dictionary that says it’s the pain EXPERIENCED (previous page, there’s a link). So it is the pain we actually FEEL. How we choose to ENDURE it is individual – and women are allowed to yell out loudly.
But Finti is right. Running around with twice your weight on your back requires a lot of endurance. As far as I know (and I’m not a biologist or anatomist or anything like that), men have the strength – women have the endurance (which is part of that threshold thingy).
But I’m leaving for China in a few hours. So if this thread still exists when I come back, I’ll be sure to see if we’re all in agreement. Take care everyone! 😄
No. Ush, i agree with Lil on this one. i just made that comment, which was infact ridiculous, because the mood in this thread was getting heated so i said it to lighten things up. As if i could ever pass up the opportunity to make that comment about bleeding for 7 days without dying.
In times of war. It would be a minor detail. But i believe someone else made a pretty good arguement for why women should be in their own platoons or units. I just don't feel like backing up that arguement right now...
Originally posted by The Omega
Link> Yes, I think we discussed from two different views on pain threshold. With that in mind we’ve been talking past each other.Fire> Sure you can find men with a high pain threshold. But in general women have a higher pain threshold. That doesn’t mean men are weaklings, they grind their teeth and endure it.
Lady von Tramp> Well, I found a dictionary that says it’s the pain EXPERIENCED (previous page, there’s a link). So it is the pain we actually FEEL. How we choose to ENDURE it is individual – and women are allowed to yell out loudly.
Pain threshold:
* Amount of stimulation required before the sensation of pain is experienced.
((So, rather then calling it the limit someone can endure, it's the amount of pain necessary to cause feeling, therefore reaction?))
* The point at which a stimulus causes a feeling of pain.
((Ditto))
* The lowest intensity of stimulation at which pain is experienced; "some people have much higher pain thresholds than do other people".
((Notice "some people", not "some women/men".........))
* For example, male experimental animals injected with oestrogen, a female sex hormone, appear to have a lower tolerance for pain - that is, the addition of oestrogen appears to lower the pain threshold.
((I picked this out because someone mentioned hormones, either Lil or Sil))
Gene controls pain threshold
Variations in a single gene may explain why some people can
withstand pain that would cause others to crumple.
The gene in question, which comes in two forms, makes an enzyme that
helps control the brain signals involved in pain response.
Everyone carries two copies of the gene, one inherited from each
parent.
A study of volunteers showed that those with two copies of one form of
the gene felt much more pain than those with two copies of the other.
People with one copy of each gene variation had a pain response
somewhere between the two.
The gene variants are known as "val" or "met". They make versions of
an enzyme called catechol-O-methyl transferase (COMT) which differ in
only the tiniest of ways.
Complex process
Lead researcher Dr Jon-Kar Zubieta, from the University of Michigan in
Ann Arbor, said: "Participants who had two copies of the val form
withstood quite a bit more pain than others in the study, while at the
same time reporting that they felt less pain and fewer pain-related
negative emotions.
"Our findings and those of other groups underlie the need to think about
pain as the result of complex interfaces between injury and our own
capacity to regulate its severity and significance.
"Examining and detailing the biochemistry of these processes can then
lead to more effective treatments."
The researchers used brain scans to trace the brain's pain responses in
29 volunteers.
Each was given carefully controlled salt-water injections in their jaw
muscles to induce pain.
Subjects rated their pain every 15 seconds during each scan and filled
out standardised questionnaires assessing how they felt.
The COMT enzyme breaks down chemicals such as dopamine which
transmit messages between brain cells.
Two copies of the "val" gene makes powerful COMT that mops up the
chemicals rapidly.
But two copies of the "met" form produce a weaker version of COMT
that is not so good at clearing away the chemicals.
It is thought that a build up of chemicals like dopamine suppresses the
activity of the brain's natural painkillers - the endogenous opioids.
The study found that volunteers with two copies of the "val" gene were
better able to break down dopamine and suffered less pain.
The research is published in the magazine Science.
news.bbc.co.uk
THAT's what i spent the better part of an hour trying to find. I knew i read a report on CNN or something that supported what is above...just remembering the article name..or any name...is not my strong point. Thanks Storm...always good to know you can find something in 1/60th the time it takes me. 😛