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As a female military officer, I find some of these comments quite insulting. If a woman wants to fight on the front line, she should be evaluated the same way a man is, physically and mentally. If she can pass the physical requirements, such as being able to drag a fallen comrade and withstanding carrying a certain poundage on her back, then she is physically able to fight on the front line. If she is a stable person who is calm under pressure and is resourceful and puts her people above herself, then she is mentally able to fight on the front line.

As for women being in the background of the military, I have to disagree. Much of the fighting nowadays is not on the front line directly. You will find women in the roles of pilot (fighter and otherwise), air battle managers, security forces, and special investigations-- all of which demand being in top physical condition and being mentally sound. However, don't dismiss the "background," as someone called it. Women, along with men, handle pay, logistics, public affairs, medicine, law (criminal and civil), services, and computers. They also are engineers and researchers, designing weapons. They also man the nuclear missile silos. More than 25% of the US Air Force is female, and equal opportunity rights are more protected in the military than in most civilian companies.

As for sexual tension, if you don't want women to be on the front line with men because of sexual tension, you might as well restructure the entire military so that all squadrons are divided by sex. Why stop at the military? Sexual tension exists in the civilian world, so we should have a male-AT&T and a female AT&T. We should have a male-McDonalds and a female-McDonalds... it's a ridiculous argument.

I am in personnel, so I'm not on the front line, but I deploy just like everyone else, and everyone that deploys has a chance of being captured or killed. I've decided that serving my country and trying to make the world a safer place for my son is worth the risk of being raped, tortured, and all the other awful things that evil people do to soldiers.

Don't ask....

Don't tell....

If you're implying I'm a lesbian, let me assure you I'm happily married to a man, also in the military, and he rocks my world, emotionally and sexually, thank you.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
If you're implying I'm a lesbian, let me assure you I'm happily married to a man, also in the military, and he rocks my world, emotionally and sexually, thank you.

WTF? I could swear about a year ago you said you were British, living with your ridiculous wealthy parents, nigh-anoerexic and in your teens.

Most be someone else, I guess.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
If you're implying I'm a lesbian, let me assure you I'm happily married to a man, also in the military, and he rocks my world, emotionally and sexually, thank you.

I'm implying you should keep your identity a secret, and then it won't matter.

But kudos to your needless expression of female satisfaction.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm implying you should keep your identity a secret, and then it won't matter.

Then what won't matter?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Then what won't matter?

The institutionalized sexism within the military.

Originally posted by Devil King
The institutionalized sexism within the military.

How on Earth would she hide being a woman? Go to Cuba?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How on Earth would she hide being a woman? Go to Cuba?

She could tape her satisfied breasts down and act like it hurts when she gets kicked between the legs.

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF? I could swear about a year ago you said you were British, living with your ridiculous wealthy parents, nigh-anoerexic and in your teens.

Most be someone else, I guess.

Yeah, must have been because I don't think we've ever really talked.

Hide my sex? Are you guys high? I'm proud to be a woman, just as I would hope all women are proud to be women. I hope all men are proud to be men. What did I say that deserved such a smart-ass response? I stated what I believe and why I believe it in an intelligent manner.

It does hurt when someone kicks me between the legs. Penis or no penis, it's still a crotch and a sensitive area. 😛

Originally posted by willofthewisp
It does hurt when someone kicks me between the legs. Penis or no penis, it's still a crotch and a sensitive area. 😛

Not being a guy, you really can't understand. And it's not a hit to the penis men worry about.

Lol, no, I guess I can't understand what being hit under there is like for a guy. I know, it's the balls guys dread being hit.

But then I guess men can't understand all the pain that comes with having a vagina, either.

In WWII, military's still had to get relatively close to each other to engage in battle, However, the weaponry, for the most part, made it a war fought at a distance. Although, you still had to be within in visual distance of your enemy to use your gun. The front lines ( of the strongest forces) were used largely to defend the heavy artillery while pushing forward, holding position long enough until coordinates could be relayed to the artillery units or defending the heavy guns against an onslaught. I do not believe, even then, in WWII much brute strength was required on the battle field, at least not to the point where the advantage in muscle mass men have over woman becomes a necessity.

Today, Range of weapons has increased drastically. I think today, Brute strength has become even less of a necessity for the military. It is all about conditioning and skill. Obviously there are going to be obstacles and situations where strength is needed, but even if one of these rare occasions arose where a woman just isn't strong enough she still has her team to rely on. In the turn of the century, woman were hardly equal to men, so it's understandable why they weren't considered for military enlistment. Today, however, it is bewildering to me why woman are not put on front lines. The military welcomes their enlistment. They are trained as the men are and in the military, no matter what your job is you are always a rifleman first.

Is it because they get periods? because i would understand that excuse, i would think it's hard enough being pinned down and dealing with gun fire to have to deal with a skitzo lady that just started her flow and is barking at me, demanding to know why i just gave her a dirty look.

Ooh, I agreed with you all the way up until the period thing. Not every woman becomes a raging psycho when she's on her period. If they do become that, there is a lovely thing called Midol. Anymore, their birth control pills also help regulate their hormones. But according to a psychology professor I have, as well as a health and fitness professor I had, men have mood cycles, too.'

Women in the US Navy aren't allowed on subs and the official reason is because of their periods, not because of mood but because of the smell/waste disposal. That's also one of the official reasons women can't fight on the front lines, is that disposal of their...period-related paraphanlia. I know that's gross, but you were on the right track. It's the same reason why in the Airman's Guide it talks about why all trash needs to be disposed of so carefully. Trash is a way to track someone, even with all of today's technology.

But I think the benefits of having more people out there fighting would far outweigh that. If there are ways to dispose to all the waste the guys produce, they can come up with something.

Women who used to be in the army sound like men. I had a substitute teacher who used to in the army, she looked good and I would so **** her, but everytime she yelled I said "Sorry sir." and she was not pleased.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
But then I guess men can't understand all the pain that comes with having a vagina, either.

A married guy can.

Originally posted by Robtard
A married guy can.

Amen.

Women should be allowed into the military with no restrictions or preferential/deferential treatment.

All I'm saying that as long as a person can meet the requirements of a particular job, that person should be able to do it. Not every woman should fight on the front line. Not every man should fight on the front line. But everyone should have the possibility open to them.

I love women.

SHOULD they be aloud to fight on the Frontline:YES: absolutley, a noble cause and it should be available to all who want it.

But ofcourse thats the "P C" answer

Men are stronger, Faster, Higher endurance.

Dont call me a pig. Females out number men on this world 2 - 1 But...

Strongest person on earth? Male
Fastest? Male
Distance Runner? Male
Smartest? (academically) Male
Best Memory? Male

PLEASE dont call me a pig - 8th place 1500 mtr MALE runner is still faster than the 1st place womens - (or there abouts).

Pick 10 males aged 18-25 from any college and 10 females aged 18-25 RANDOM. Test them on Strength - Endurance - Speed. Men will win.

Now train those 20 candidates and now you have 10 TRAINED men STILL faster / stronger than 10 equally trained women.

They are who i want on my frontline no? Best person for the job, male or female. Female beats male at any test of endurance / speed / strength or combat..well done she deserves to be on the frontline.

There is a reason professional sports are segregated..

Originally posted by Juk3n
I love women.

SHOULD they be aloud to fight on the Frontline:YES: absolutley, a noble cause and it should be available to all who want it.

But ofcourse thats the "P C" answer

Men are stronger, Faster, Higher endurance.

Dont call me a pig. Females out number men on this world 2 - 1 But...

Strongest person on earth? Male
Fastest? Male
Distance Runner? Male
Smartest? (academically) Male
Best Memory? Male

PLEASE dont call me a pig - 8th place 1500 mtr MALE runner is still faster than the 1st place womens - (or there abouts).

Pick 10 males aged 18-25 from any college and 10 females aged 18-25 RANDOM. Test them on Strength - Endurance - Speed. Men will win.

Now train those 20 candidates and now you have 10 TRAINED men STILL faster / stronger than 10 equally trained women.

They are who i want on my frontline no? Best person for the job, male or female. Female beats male at any test of endurance / speed / strength or combat..well done she deserves to be on the frontline.

There is a reason professional sports are segregated..

I'm not sure even sure why you bring this up. I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who thinks human males are not going to be physically stronger than a human woman if "trained equally."

To me, that's a moot point.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
All I'm saying that as long as a person can meet the requirements of a particular job, that person should be able to do it. Not every woman should fight on the front line. Not every man should fight on the front line. But everyone should have the possibility open to them.