The Draft

Started by finti8 pages

thats ok unless it is a leagal paper and stuff

Darth> I know what you mean. But I think that today – more than ever – we have to use language carefully. If you understand what I mean?

Link> “Afghanistan DID help us...they allowed us in their country to look for him.” Who did? I thought the Taliban was ruling Afghanistan.

Denmark has the draft as well. When a young man reaches 18 he goes on “session”. If he’s drafted and do not WANT to go into the military, he’ll do civil work for the next 9 months (or so). You can also sign up for the army.

All> Just take your time with me! 🙂 I’ll not be back for the next couple of weeks as I’m going on my tour de China in a few hours. So be good!

You thought the Taliban were ruling Afghanistan? So there was no organized government in that entire country? 😕

Link> "Was". As in before Bush send his troops there.
AE says, that Bush decided to attack Iraq because the Taliban-government was hiding Osama and co. Now it sounds as if you say the Taliban wasn't...
I'm confused...

wait. that's a bit unclear. I never linked Afghanistan and Iraq, all i ever said was that Afghanistan helped out the US by allowing US soldiers into the country to hunt down Bin Laden and his cohorts.

You thought the Taliban were ruling Afghanistan? So there was no organized government in that entire country?

Afghanistan WAS ruled by a Taliban regime prior to the invasion led by the US

Finti is right, the Taliban however were fighting rebels in afghanistan under the leading of Commander Ahmed Shah Massud.
The leader of the anti-Taleban coalition, Two foreign suicide assassins, who had camouflaged themselves as journalists murdered Ahmad Shah Masood on the 18.06.1380 (09.09.2001) in Khoaja Bahauddin in the Takhar province.(I think they carried Belgian Passports)

yah, i was kinda engulfed with high school work at the time we went into Afghanistan so my knowledge of what went on their was minimal. I just know when we "rocked them back to the stone age" we merely gave them more rocks to throw at us by destroying their homes.

The opposing party to the Taliban was the Northern Alliance led by Ahmad Shah Massoud, as Fire said he died of the injuries received of a suicide bombers only days before 9.11.
The Taliban regime reign from 1996-2001 and it was led by Mullah Muhammad Omar

doesn't matter but “Afghanistan DID help us...they allowed us in their country to look for him.”
is just not true, the Anti-Taliban Coalition helped you indeed, but not the Taliban and as long as they were ruling Afghanistan I don't think you can call the Anti-Taliban Coalition Afghanistan.

Taliban controled 90%

I just know when we "rocked them back to the stone age"
that is one of the most silly frase I know, the infrastructure of Afghanistan was pretty poor, warthorn by nearly 20 years of conflict, long before the fall of the Taliban regime.
Has to be said that even how technological advanced military the western forces hype themselves up to be they havent been able to track down the top notch of the taliban regime let alone OBL

I couldent care less, you americans can go military crazy, I dont care cause i dont live in the USA...so whatever

Finti, i wasn't quoting that term because it was one of my original phrases...i was quoting someone else. I believe it was AE (aka I am a sock)

I think it's a horrible phrase also.

As for The_Anomaly....don't you have some highly contagious disease like SARS to worry about? 🙄

*ahem*
can we stay on topic?

aboot time

Originally posted by The Omega
(AW> Why the name change??)
Pretty easy? What constitutes a dictator? Violation of the Declaration of Human Rights?

Any country which has the draft is clearly a dictatorship 😉 Look it up in the dictionary.

Being thrown into a certain death situation at another's whim for no reward only happens to those with no constitutional rights. Even if they think they have them, they are illusory.

Being thrown into a certain death situation at another's whim for no reward only happens to those with no constitutional rights. Even if they think they have them, they are illusory

its all about defending the right to be sovereign, small countries need the draft to maintain some sort of a military defence. The constitutional right is that there is a chocies for the people to vote for anti military political parties.The majority chose not to, in order to maintain the the military buffer as a defence against a violation toward the democrtacy and soverignity of a country

we're a small country and we don't have the draft 😄

well I mentioned earlier that the changes in the world with the fall of the eastern block the enemy has shifted too, the new situation is that armies must adapt to the present. Even in Norway it looks like the days of the draft/mandatory service is over. And now move towards a professional armed forces.

we're(Belgium) a small country and we don't have the draft
yeah and then you also rolled over in about 10 seconds too, and twice 😛

The way the UK government has managed the military has never been to the country's benefit. Following Finti's logic, the goverment has never attempted to use the draft to defend the individual's right, so the draft is unambiguously a form of slavery.

Thank Goodness it isn't still in operation... currently...