Originally posted by Haruhi
So after all that babbling of different opinion, you're copping out on your own because you didn't see everything? Uh, K. Right now, I'm guessing you were on the DBZ train, thinking they were up there, only to be proven completely wrong by the people here. Both on the part of Superman and L-sama.Well, okay. If you're just going to come in here and try to ignorantly defend some fanboys, then save us both the time, please.
BTW, I-watch-Pokemon~
You saying "anyone who doesnt agree with me is a fanboy" makes you even more of a fanboy than you think they are.
Answer this question, Do you know of every single character in anime history? Or do you only know of some and are basing your argument soley on the characters you know?
He can fly from one galaxy to another in UNDER a second.
Superman travels at light speed....
t takes Goku at least a few seconds to actually use instant transmission. By the time he's finished concentrating on where he wants to go, Superman would have already blitzed him.
It doesnt take Goku long to use instant transmission. Did you ever see his fight with Cooler on the new planet Namek?
Vegito even used it in a battle against Super Buu without it taking any time at all.
Originally posted by I watch Pokemon
Superman can exceed lightspeed and Pre-Crisis Superboy spanned millions of light years in seconds. Cooler isn't even a cannon character and the DBZ movies arn't cannon either.And Goku isn't Vegito.
Vegito> Goku.
Goku is half Vegito and he used the IT in battle and he didnt even focus. It doesnt matter if the movies arent cannon, the technique is straight from the series. Its used in the series and its used in the movies.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Goku is half Vegito and he used the IT in battle and he didnt even focus. It doesnt matter if the movies arent cannon, the technique is straight from the series. Its used in the series and its used in the movies.
Yes,it does matter if the movies are canon, because the powers aren't always gauged properly in the movies. You just keep ignoring that.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yes,it does matter if the movies are canon, because the powers aren't always gauged properly in the movies. You just keep ignoring that.
And Vegito used it in his fight against Buu you cant argue against that. And IT as I said before it teleportation, how in the hell can argue that super speed is faster than teleportation?
He dematerializes then materializes at his destination, there would be no way to sense where he is, so if used in a battle, it would always give him an advantage.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
And Vegito used it in his fight against Buu you cant argue against that. And IT as I said before it teleportation, how in the hell can argue that super speed is faster than teleportation?He dematerializes then materializes at his destination, there would be no way to sense where he is, so if used in a battle, it would always give him an advantage.
Your comparing the way vegito used IT to the way goku uses it. Big difference.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
[B]You saying "anyone who doesnt agree with me is a fanboy" makes you even more of a fanboy than you think they are.
Again, wrong. I'm stating the facts here. Superman is more powerful than Goku. Why? Because he's done more things that demonstrate his powers. Goku hasn't done a thousandth of what Superman has done. L-sama is more powerful than Goku. Why? Because she's omnipotent. She can do whatever she pleases, however she pleases and whenever she pleases. Goku cannot do that. This is most basic of logics. IF you acknowledge that they can do all that, but still spout that Goku is better, then you are a fanboy. Me calling them out on that doesn't make me one. It just means I'm delivering the truth.
Answer this question, Do you know of every single character in anime history? Or do you only know of some and are basing your argument soley on the characters you know?
If we have to know every single character from every piece of anime ever written in order to have a legitimate, then what's the point of having this message board? Nobody here has seen everything ever written. In all honesty, I think you're just afraid to admit that your precious DBZ characters aren't at the top of the foodchain, and come up with this lame excuse of having to watch everything ever written to even post something. It's pathetic. Truly pathetic. So, again.. I ask you. Who do you think is most powerful? You don't have to see everything to actually have an opinion. I mean, some people here think Naruto is it, but you and I can say w/confidence that their opinion is blatantly wrong.
Superman travels at light speed....
Actually, Superman can travel several, several, SEVERAL times the speed of light. Like Pokemon said, Supes at one point spanned millions of light years in a moment.
It doesnt take Goku long to use instant transmission. Did you ever see his fight with Cooler on the new planet Namek?
It takes Goku at least one second to get an idea of where he wants to go. By then, Superman will have punched a hole through him AND through time. And what good is instant transmission in a fight? To run away?
Also, Cooler never happened in the official canon. He isn't a character based on Akira Toriyama's original story. If I were to suddenly make up a movie where Goku was a woman, would you count that as a trait? No. The same with the movies. It's not real.
Well this is hardly a fair topic to argue about seeing as there are so many different types of anime characters.
Sure Goku can kick more ass than anybody but Yuki Nagato could remove him from existance in an instant.
Sure Kenshin has "godlike speed" and can cut through dozens of skilled warroirs in an instant but a single gundam or eva would vaporise him.
Sure the Elric Brothers are both geniuses that can defeat immortal incarnations of sin but odds are naruto (w/ kuybi) would put his fist through Al's blood seal and Ed's head within seconds
*rambles on for several hours in the same vein*
and that is why any discussion of this topic is all but pointless
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosAgree with all of those.
Well this is hardly a fair topic to argue about seeing as there are so many different types of anime characters.Sure Goku can kick more ass than anybody but Yuki Nagato could remove him from existance in an instant.
Sure Kenshin has "godlike speed" and can cut through dozens of skilled warroirs in an instant but a single gundam or eva would vaporise him.
Sure the Elric Brothers are both geniuses that can defeat immortal incarnations of sin but odds are naruto (w/ kuybi) would put his fist through Al's blood seal and Ed's head within seconds
*rambles on for several hours in the same vein*
and that is why any discussion of this topic is all but pointless
I will say that Bobobo can do all these weird things from nowhere.
how about the former crimson king of sdk manga.
he was faster than light, a true master of mumyoujinpu techniques, and proficient at almost every technique used by mibu members. he can turn most mibu constructs into stone. he can create countless unkillable blood soldiers at will. Created guys like chinmei, Kyosaburo, kyoshiro with his blood and reabsorb them at will. He's nearly unkillable himself since his heart's not in his body.
I will say that Bobobo can do all these weird things from nowhere.
Actually that a really good point Bobobo could probably take on just about any foe matched against him with a Super Fist Techniqure tailored to its weakness.
how about the former crimson king of sdk manga.
he sounds awsome but I've still got to go with Yuki
Originally posted by lightness
how about the former crimson king of sdk manga.he was faster than light, a true master of mumyoujinpu techniques, and proficient at almost every technique used by mibu members. he can turn most mibu constructs into stone. he can create countless unkillable blood soldiers at will. Created guys like chinmei, Kyosaburo, kyoshiro with his blood and reabsorb them at will. He's nearly unkillable himself since his heart's not in his body.
That's just speed/power. When he's up against a person like Yuki Nagato, who can will all of that away, he's useless. If she wanted to, she could even have him not exist in the first place. Or castrate him. Or anything else to rape SDK characters.
....So, no. He's not even close to the top.