Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Broly is not canon, hence why his feats are so horrendously superior to canon DBZ characters.Janemba warped SMALL dimensions, filled with weaklings.
Goku and Vegeta were unable to stop a planet busting attack from Kid Buu.
Neither is SSJ4 Gogeta so if youre saying that broly had good feats just because hes non-canon just remember that SSJ4 Gogeta isnt either and hes infinetly stronger than broly
And Janemba is also non-canon so that means youre saying he can destroy a universe or alot of planets if he tried if he because he's also stronger than broly
And it is true that Goku and Vegeta were unable to stop the planet being destroyed but Goku said it could destroy the planet 10 times just with that move so it has got alot of power and buu makes it look effortless. And he is canon and he also used a little ki blast that also could have destroyed the planet which vegeta blasted away
Lord of Nightmares from Slayers created 4 multiverses and can destroy universes effortlessly.
A common misconception is that the Lost Universe is a part of Slayers!, but it's not. L-sama has yet to be mentioned in the series, and L-sama according to canon created four universes. And only one Darkstar.
And these universes are not time-lines, when Lina touched the tablet she was obtaining knowledge from the Clear Bible about "What would have happen". That instance never happen.
And L-sama is incapable of reaching the worlds she's created. As she wants all worlds to unite with the sea of Chaos, yet they stand.
As much as I hate "Tenchi Muyo!" a Choushin would effortlessly defeat L-sama.
Originally posted by SSJ2Vegeta
Neither is SSJ4 Gogeta so if youre saying that broly had good feats just because hes non-canon just remember that SSJ4 Gogeta isnt either and hes infinetly stronger than brolyAnd Janemba is also non-canon so that means youre saying he can destroy a universe or alot of planets if he tried if he because he's also stronger than broly
And it is true that Goku and Vegeta were unable to stop the planet being destroyed but Goku said it could destroy the planet 10 times just with that move so it has got alot of power and buu makes it look effortless. And he is canon and he also used a little ki blast that also could have destroyed the planet which vegeta blasted away
Actually if it was only 10 times the debris cloud would have expanded very slowly.
It was likely more than that.
But the strongest canon DBZ characters have feats of destroying earth - size planets easily, not much greater. Honestly when it comes to "strongest anime characters ever" they're not even in the running when you have things like Saint Seiya, Akira, Bokurano, Digimon, Dual, El-Hazard, FLCL, GaoGaiGar, Demonbane, Space Runaway Ideon, Gunbuster, Diebuster, TTGL, Heroic Age, Lost Universe, Noein, Project A-Ko, Slayers, Tenchi, Haruhi Suzumiya no Yuutsu, etc.
Anyway, if we want to use non - canon characters like Brolly then they have to be taken as stand - alone individual movies. As far as the canon DBZ storyline is concerned, Brolly never existed. Same with Janemba (not that he did much impressive anyway, hell was warped by his existence but that was because he was made of concentrated evil power that was altering the dimension, it wasn't something he could control and it's pretty useless in a fight).
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually in the newer material it was stated that there were infinite universes in the SlayersverseSomeone posted a scan of it on Naruto forums, I'll try to find it
The series (both anime and manga) is based on the light novels, Knight of the Aqua Lord was not one of the original novels and would therefore be considered non-canon.
Nor would it matter because L-sama can't control the universes so it doesn't matter how many she pulls out of her ass.
Honestly, this whole making worlds thing is BS. All these anime characters can make worlds and creatures but how is this useful in a fight? It's not. Just for once I would like to see an anime character born or created destroy a universe they were born or created in. How do we know that these characters powers are only capable of creating things or not, for all we know they can make whole universes yet be unable to kill.
When a thread says "who is the most powerful Anime character ever!" One would assume it means which anime character will be able to beat any other anime character in a fight? Creating a universe is not an attack, exerting ones power on their own creation is not an attack. Like me and many others said before me, until these "God" characters actually throw down in a fight or act against a threat in which their origins are in no way involved wit 1 another, 1 can not assume these characters can actually fight.
This is the "who is the most powerful Anime character ever!" thread, not "Which anime can create and uncreated the most crap!" And it is even less relevant when characters lack full control over what they create.
Originally posted by Astner
I've already read the manga. But fact is that it's a non-canon manga, as it was never in one of the novels.
I didn't say manga, I said material - it was some official release. I'm not an expert though so I'll have to contact a guy I know on the other forums who is.
Nor would it matter because L-sama can't control the universes so it doesn't matter how many she pulls out of her ass.
Um, yes she can. Giga Slave is her power and it can destroy a universe easily, and she has been known to intervene in the affairs of beings in the universes.
Honestly, this whole making worlds thing is BS. All these anime characters can make worlds and creatures but how is this useful in a fight? It's not. Just for once I would like to see an anime character born or created destroy a universe they were born or created in. How do we know that these characters powers are only capable of creating things or not, for all we know they can make whole universes yet be unable to kill.
L-sama easily killed Hellmaster Phibrizzo
When a thread says "who is the most powerful Anime character ever!" One would assume it means which anime character will be able to beat any other anime character in a fight? Creating a universe is not an attack, exerting ones power on their own creation is not an attack. Like me and many others said before me, until these "God" characters actually throw down in a fight or act against a threat in which their origins are in no way involved wit 1 another, 1 can not assume these characters can actually fight.This is the "who is the most powerful Anime character ever!" thread, not "Which anime can create and uncreated the most crap!" And it is even less relevant when characters lack full control over what they create.
Yes they can, since they can simply "uncreate" the opponent, or the universe they are in, or turn them into something harmless, or create something more powerful to defeat them. Reality Warping can do practically anything.
Originally posted by Endless MikeIsn't EVERYTHING in Slayers made by her?
L-sama easily killed Hellmaster Phibrizzo
Originally posted by Endless MikeWhen have they ever done these things to creatures they didn't create. I'm not sayin the DBZ guys can beat anybody, just sayin' where is the proof that they can exersize power over things that aint made by them? Not to mention that most of these characters only have these powers thru "legend".
Yes they can, since they can simply "uncreate" the opponent, or the universe they are in, or turn them into something harmless, or create something more powerful to defeat them. Reality Warping can do practically anything.
Originally posted by Alan KyderShe's a supreme being. 😐
Isn't EVERYTHING in Slayers made by her?When have they ever done these things to creatures they didn't create. I'm not sayin the DBZ guys can beat anybody, just sayin' where is the proof that they can exersize power over things that aint made by them? Not to mention that most of these characters only have these powers thru "legend".
No it's not...
Goku and Naruto did not create the universes they live in. The DBU is not Goku's property. He is just a dude who happened to be born there. It is reterded to think a charcter can walk outta there own universe and still be a god wit no evidence of it...Besides she's listed as a "Demiurge" a (creator diety). Not almighty GOD.
Originally posted by I am who I am
No it's not...Goku and Naruto did not create the universes they live in. The DBU is not Goku's property. He is just a dude who happened to be born there. It is reterded to think a charcter can walk outta there own universe and still be a god wit no evidence of it...Besides she's listed as a "Demiurge" a (creator diety). Not almighty GOD.
A demiurge is always lesser in power than a higher being. Name the higher being in the Slayers multiverse - there is no one higher than L-sama.
Furthermore, she created all of those universes from her own power, she is literally the "Sea of Chaos" from which all existence springs. What makes you think her power which can be seen devouring galaxies and crushing universes would mysteriously not work in another fiction? Are stars, planets, galaxies, and universes there somehow different? You know how much power it takes to create universes, that same power is used to destroy them. Your argument is solipsist nonsense. This is what the equivalence rule is for. I might as well ask you to prove that universes in other animes aren't just 1 inch across and everything is tiny.