Originally posted by carver9Gokou doesn't deny it at all that he and Vegeta are stronger and can defeat Babidi. He just tells him to wait that Gohan hasn't lost yet.
I guess you didnt get why vegeta was acting like that. He was basically trying to get babidis attention, which he suceeded at. Thats why he was insulting gohun and saying the things that he was saying. If that vegeta fought cell during the cell tournament, he would get crushed.They didnt stretch out nothing, it was said ON PANEL that the fight was a mere 5 minutes but again, everything that happened in that short 5 minutes made it look like they were fighting for days. You hate giving dbz there props, you try to take away everything that was said on the show and down it.
He dont have to say it because he lost that super saiyan 2 ability when he died. Why would he get amped by babidi if he could already turn super saiyan 2. That was the main reason he had babidi to do it because of the magic making beings stronger then they really are, unless you forgot the story that vegeta told to goku about the two guys that was in the tournament, the one that almost killed videl. He say that babadi magic made them stronger.
Yea and just because the anime puts a hundred different things in it when the fights like 5 panels in the manga doesn't mean they are moving at such speed that 1 minute stretches to an hour.
And there is no evidence that Vegeta lost that amp at all. Babidi makes them stronger never says they get weaker if the mark is removed. And there is on-panel proof right there that Vegeta didn't loose the amp. He's ssj2.
Originally posted by carver9Because it's so hard for Gokou to go ssj3 and attack while Vegeta stops a blast that only destroys Earth when you've said Freeza can destroy the universe.
Its very hard to come up with a plan instantly when you facing a guy like buu. They never got that chance to strategize and even if they did they still would have gotten killed since buu main focus was goku. There was no need to save earth anyway since super buu killed everything on it with one blast.Answer this, do you think that superman could have stopped the blast or would earth have died also. Hell kid buu scream almost destroyed the planet.
And how do you know how fast the blast was going since the writers basically have to slow everything down so that we can see whats going on.
Cell is a being that has living cells in him from the greatest and strongest fighters. Look at his bio on the dbz site, it say that hes a android. He was built and created but guro put living tissue in him which made him a android. And if 17 or 18 had infinite energy they would basically be>>>>>anyone in dbz since dbz characters are based off of energy. The more energy you have the more powerful and faster you are. 17/18 was picollo equal and by the way picollo statement had to be false since he couldnt read there power levels.
Thats the time that Im talking about.
He never overrated his power. He was already nigh invulnerable but if you did manage to hurt him he had a healing factor that was next to none. He was basically unstoppable and invincible but gohun did the impossible and destroyed him all the way down to the last cell. Super sayain 2 power is on a entirely different level. Especially a super saiyan 2 that can become extremely powerful when angry. To bad superman dont have any kind of way of beating cell. Hell I wouldnt even go that far up the totum pole with superman fighting a dbz character, so Im going to leave that alone.
Thats not what Im telling you, Im telling you that flight aid strength, anyone know this.
When he said that he can destroy planets but failed to even put a scratch on despero.
When superman tries to solo a character that has basically just taken out the entire league and say lets see how you do against me and get one shotted, he just overrated his ability.
I agree and good post.
everyone know about that angel, I dont even know why Im debating about him when I know how powerful he was. When superman pulled that feat the entire league couldnt believe it, they knew that was something that wasnt within his power.
Im not comment on any of our hulk debate, its getting off the subject.
Everyone that goku has fought had super strength. You do know who colossus is right, hes a 100 tonner. Wolverine asked colossus to throw him at a ship that was cloud height, colossus had to use all of his strength to pull that feat and wolverine barely made it up there. You remember the saiyan saga, vegeta easily almost threw nappa out of orbit. You do know who thor is right, thor hit someone with one of his hardest punch and knocked them out of orbit, captain ginyu flinched his arm and was throwing people out of orbit.
Back to the saiyan saga. Goku kicked vegeta so hard that he flew through two mountains, I would love for you to show me a 100 tonner pulling that feat. Goku kicked frieza so hard that the entire area for miles was shaking and the z fighters couldnt stand after it, show me superman hitting someone that hard. Frieza was punching goku so hard that the clouds dispersed and the lakes was trembling. Hell vegeta and that pretty boy guy that he fought on planet namek caused more destruction physically then almost any of superman fights alone. I hope you didnt also forget about the time trunk and cell was fighting in the clouds and trunks punch cell and made the clouds disappears and knocked cell at least a hundred feat into the ground.
Superman could have tanked that blast easily. It may have hurt but he would survive to fight.
😕 The face that the old Kaioshin has time to tell Kaioshin to go to Earth after its fired, the fact that they get Dende and Satan, and have a conversation while Gokou tries to concentrate and it's still not even close to them.
Cell is organic. He was grown in a tube with all the cells combined from all the fighters. Never once is he said to not be felt except when he hides his power in his first form. And so now Piccolo is wrong in what he states and is less truthful than Cell? And no they wouldn't be stronger. They have a set limit but they'll never run out of energy and always be as strong as they were when they were created no matter how long they fight. They will never tire. That's why Piccolo can't feel their energy. That's why they don't have to absorb energy like 19 and Gero, and they don't have to power up like Cell.
That wasn't a small moon.
Gohan hurt him with punches after he already said Gohan would never beat him. Gohan was almost his equal without even going ssj2. And calling yourself unbeatable is overrating yourself. Saying his perfect form even before he got it would never be beaten is overrating himself. And heat vision would do the exact same thing.
If Superman didn't have the strength to move or stop something it wouldn't matter if he could fly at all. Flying doesn't give him more strength or anybody who flew with a degree of super strength would accomplish his feats.
Because ya know it's just can't be that Despro is more durable than some small planet.
Wait did you actually know how it was done?
Because it's an angel...of course they'd be in awe but its not like anybody but Zauriel actually knew about him and even then he didn't really know the JLA's power. Besides it doesn't mean he was as physically strong. Just because somebody is powerful doesn't make them physically strong.
Nappa didn't even go close to going out of orbit, and against Ginyu knocked people up the never flew out of orbit. Besides I know people in DB have super strength that's why I said top tier..and Colossus isn't top tier. Mountains? You mean those tiny pillar things that were really the only thing around when they fought? And seriously any class 100 should be able to knock so 200 pound guy for miles yet Wolverine usually isn't or even fighting in space people should go flying when hit yet they don't. And people have knocked people out of orbit, actually out or orbit easily, and to other states. Besides I'd say Gokou at full power is stronger than Colossus anyway.
