Originally posted by blue_beast
ye i agree with you on that, it seem that street levelers will always have a chance against the big guns of marvel, and yet beast never show anything beyong the strength of wolverine
Beast lifted spiral ship over his head like it was nothing. That feat alone puts him in the 75 ton bracket
i saw a lot of feats from beast and he never did something impresive that can put him in the class 5 at least, maybe during his entire career he did a thing or two but thats not enough to judge a character , punisher once fliped a van so now he is super human strong? every character at some point had some moment or two but lets take characters like luke cage and spider-man who really are super strong at 10-20 class and they have plenty feats to back that up so why beast shouldnt have that?
Originally posted by blue_beast
i saw a lot of feats from beast and he never did something impresive that can put him in the class 5 at least, maybe during his entire career he did a thing or two but thats not enough to judge a character , punisher once fliped a van so now he is super human strong? every character at some point had some moment or two but lets take characters like luke cage and spider-man who really are super strong at 10-20 class and they have plenty feats to back that up so why beast shouldnt have that?
lmao, you're claiming that Beast can't even lift 5 tons?
facepalm
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lmao, you're claiming that Beast can't even lift 5 tons?facepalm
yes i am please prove me that i am wrong and dont give me a link to some bio please prove it by feats, if spider-man is class 20 i can show you feats where he does things in his class, same thing about any super human character... provide facts that beast is at least class 5
Originally posted by blue_beast
please tell me whatfeats did he ever have to prove he is really strong
From the Beast respect thread. Note that these aren't his modern feats. This is decades old and he's gone through like 2-4 mutations since. 😬
Human form
Breaks free from Mole Mans shackles without sign of struggle. http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9638/hy22pg04gx1.jpg
Holding a wall from crushing him.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/789/sagility6do3.jpg
Rips a chunk of a ship off with seamingly ease.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/903/xfactor028page11wo4.jpg
Rips out chunks of Apocalapse' space station.
1. http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8153/xf024pg02kg6.jpg
2. http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2909/xf024pg14dx5.jpg
Amphibian form (stated throughout that he recieved a significant upgrade in all abilities with this mutation).
Shackles really aren't the recommended way to hold Beast. ❌
1. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3280/xfactor03306bx7.jpg
2. http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1181/xfactor03315vq2.jpg
Go here if you want to see his fights with Creed, Hulk, and Juggernaut.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=430398&pagenumber=1
sorry but those feats dont show anything in class 5 super human strength, both wolverine and captain america were able to rip chains with a chunk of wall atached to it so? sabretooth in his first form was able torip chunks of metal, you dont have any lifting feats from beast no nothing all you have is copuple of feats where he break some chains and pipes ? those are all his feats for over 60 years? you cant be serious, those are his only feats back in the days he was human show me feats from his ape form? show me some feats from his current lion form? you cant... why? because they dont exist, so during all his 60 and something years of carrer he broke some chains wow even punisher did things more impresice then that like fliping a van at least punisher had some lifting showings, even blade got more strength feats then beast, face it beast doesnt have any feats at all to put him in class 5 strength class ,and the part where he fights sabretooth and hulk he is only getting his butt handed to him sow what does it prove
dont try to look for things that arent there, if beast had super humanstrength he would use it in his fights, he would throw cars that weight much less then 5 tons, he would rip down a tree and hit his oponnent he would do something to show that super strength the fact is he cant because he is not super strong at those levels and no where near class 5, the best way to describe it is by his old bio where they state that he has the strength of an ape thats a perfect way to describe his strength ... as strong as an ape which means he is super human strong class 1-2 not more then that
Originally posted by blue_beastToo bad he does. Guess you didn't take my advice in going to his respect thread and seeing his multiple fights with Hulk, Juggernaut, sparring with Sabretooth, and not to mention overpowering Iron Man.
if beast had super humanstrength he would use it in his fights,
Originally posted by blue_beast
he would rip down a tree and hit his oponnent
There not trees, there huge metal poles off a space station. 😐
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2909/xf024pg14dx5.jpg
Again, that's only his first mutation.
[QUOTE=12065877]Originally posted by Darth Martin
[B]Too bad he does. Guess you didn't take my advice in going to his respect thread and seeing his multiple fights with Hulk, Juggernaut, sparring with Sabretooth, and not to mention overpowering Iron Man.
going up against juggernaut and hulk is not a strength feat its a fight feat there is a difference , there are many street levelelrs thast went up against hulk so what? back in the beginning when he was grey beast and when he fought juggernaut they let him be a tough and heavy hitter but that was only at the beginning, do you really think beast can beat juggernaut 1 on 1 ? well thats what happened in that PIS issue not to mention juggernaut turned to an old man so that was a total BULLCRAP, again i will state that all you have to show me is couple of really reallyu old showings of beast from the time the writers didnt know how to make him and how to define his strength so he once was just a little above human and later he beats juggernaut hand 2 hand, but he became a defined character after that and we both know damn well that after that you cant see him do anything that aproves he is at least class 5, that why during his entire carrer he was beat up by everyone including humans m the brotherhood of mutants gave him a hell of a beating, he was like 200 times in hospital from beak and in x-treme ... the guy gets beat up all the time and never show any super human strength , so the 4-6 scans he got for 60 years really dont mean much because i can show 4-6 scans of blade ripping metal chanks and fliping cars and thats more then beast ever did
What he said was, 'Beast fighting Hulk shows nothing that puts Beast in above the cl5 catagory, Wolverine has fought Hulk, Effectivley fought hulk for a while, Steve Rogers knocked Hulk on his ass, you wouldn't say that Wolverine and Cap have cl5 strength'.
Is the general tone of the mass wall of text.
And he does have a point. High level streets have often had to take it to heavy hitters, if even for a short time.
The phrase "and that's only the first mutation" has been thrown around these boards alot. Someone show the man some viable strength feats of a current Beast - not feats granted him for the run of a story arc - his actual strength stuff, is what Blue Beast be asking.
listen people i dont underatand why are you taking this personal and attacking me i am just having a nice debate, more then that i WANT you to prove me i am wrong because i am a fan of beast hell look at my nick name i am a fan of beast and i want you to prove me i am wrong but you cant because lets face the facts? all your strength feats that show nothing special in the first place are like 50-60 years old when beast was a new character and the writers didnt know how to establish his strength
and again can you show more recent feats of him doing anything that puts him in at least calss 5 category? hell not even recent feats even from his blue ape days anything?
