Beast Vs Sabertooth

Started by darthgoober34 pages

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Well the fact beast was shown stronger, for one when capt max lifting feat is over beasts. Wolverine never shown to have a max breaking point really, and has consistently shown high levels of strength and has never been shown to be waker then beast, so to equat beast showing to be stronger then capt means he stronger then wolverine is not accurate.

Thing's max lifting feats are above Juggernaught's, but that doesn't mean that Thing's actually stronger. We know Juggs is stronger because Juggs is as stronger/stronger than people who are stronger than Thing.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wolverine weights more then capt. He weight 300 pounds, capt weigts 240. He has 60 pounds on capt.

And Logan has over powered meta humans before.


Isn't that with his adamantium skeleton?

Which ones?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Whats the issue number, got any scans? If it the issue I am referring to there no reason wolverine could not have done the same, hell wolverine thrown 1,600 roughly pound dumbster with one arm around 5 feet easily.

Nope I already checked. And if Cap and Wolverine have comparable feats, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Wolverine could have done the same if we're just going by feats.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
You brought up the golden tree feat in which it was stated to weight ton’s.So I brought up a Wolverine feat in which he was made to weight tons and his weight kept increasing and wolverine never yielded, but the floor that was ridiculously thick did.

Never saw the instance you're referring to so I can't really address it or any potential differences.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Can you describe the event of the beast feat, because I am pretty sure I know what event you are talking about.

All through out volume two rogue strength varied and she was stronger in volume one. Wolverine
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I don't remember the exact details. I do remember Maverick was there and he got nailed by Sabretooth from behind when he was trying to figure out how to remove the bonds but that's about it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Thing's max lifting feats are above Juggernaught's, but that doesn't mean that Thing's actually stronger. We know Juggs is stronger because Juggs is as stronger/stronger than people who are stronger than Thing.

That’s a bad example, because Beast has been part of x-men for years, there are endless apreances with the two and not onces did he show to be stronger. Yet he showed to be stronger then capt who he had far viewer aprences with. If he was stronger then wolverine it would have been shown, but it never was and the only comparison between the two wolverine showed to be stronger.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that with his adamantium skeleton?

Which ones?


Yea so? It still weights more, so for something to be superhuman for him would have to be heavier then it would for capt. Having adamtium skeleton does not change that.

Urash major, two no name meta humans at the same time there are a few others I cant remeber off the top of my head

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope I already checked. And if Cap and Wolverine have comparable feats, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Wolverine could have done the same if we're just going by feats.

No it not wolverine lifted and thrown more then that weight with a single arm. To say he couldent lift it is the stretch.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't remember the exact details. I do remember Maverick was there and he got nailed by Sabretooth from behind when he was trying to figure out how to remove the bonds but that's about it.

Lol the funny thing is that the same issue/run in which logan showed to be stronger. Beast was unable to break free until maverick fooled around with the shackles enough that beast was able to pull the wiring out, even still he couldent break his shackles he only mange to pull the wiring out with the strongest part of his body. Wolverine in a weaken state was able to completely shatter the shackles with his arms.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Never saw the instance you're referring to so I can't really address it or any potential differences.
Originally posted by jinzin

Leland increases Wolverine’s mass but the floor buckles before Wolverine does.
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Logan "went feral" after cutting Xorneto`s head off and Beast had to physically restrain him. This is one instance where Beast shows strenght greater than Logan.

Beast also lifted aside a pretty heavy block when they found Emma Frost in the ruins of genosha that first time she was in diamond form. Don`t remember how big exaxtly but several tons at least.

Lost the issues so I can`t provide scans I`m fraid

beast does seem to be stronger, not by a whole lot

I would say beast's strength might be around 2 tons

Originally posted by Mshinu
Logan "went feral" after cutting Xorneto`s head off and Beast had to physically restrain him. This is one instance where Beast shows strenght greater than Logan.

Beast also lifted aside a pretty heavy block when they found Emma Frost in the ruins of genosha that first time she was in diamond form. Don`t remember how big exaxtly but several tons at least.

Lost the issues so I can`t provide scans I`m fraid

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
yeah, thats not something I could see Wolverine lifting.

..........are you kidding me.......the stone he lifted in civil war was almost that size and thats not even a good feat of his......there no way that thing weight a ton let a lone ton's hell I bet it under 800 pounds. He dident even lift it off the ground and he was stuggling......

One ton?? Take a look at the second scan, that block is pretty big not to mention very long, you can not see the end of it even.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........are you kidding me.......the stone he lifted in civil war was almost that size and thats not even a good feat of his......there no way that thing weight a ton let a lone ton's hell I bet it under 800 pounds. He dident even lift it off the ground and he was stuggling......
it looks pretty big...you don't really see how long it is

it looks to me to be about 2000 pounds

Originally posted by Mshinu
One ton?? Take a look at the second scan, that block is pretty big not to mention very long, you can not see the end of it even.
actually you're right...after looking at the second page, you can see how long the rock is

it does look well over a ton...I revise my estimation to about 3000 lbs

edit, never mind dident see how long it was. That might have been about 2000 pounds, but again beast never picked it up he dragged the end of it, making it far and I mean far less impressive and something Logan higher feats are better then

Originally posted by Battlehammer
edit, never mind dident see how long it was. That might have been about 2000 pounds, but again beast never picked it up he dragged the end of it, making it far and I mean far less impressive and something Logan higher feats are better then
logan has never lifted anything clearly over 2000 pounds

Originally posted by Starscream M
logan has never lifted anything clearly over 2000 pounds

Many of his feats put him over the 2 ton mark, let a lone 2000 pounds.

And beast dident lift 2000 pounds.

That is reinforced concrete.. concrete alone has a density of at least 2000kg/m^3 and there would be several hundered pounds of metal in there as well. Considering how big beast is I still say that thing is several tons.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Many of his feats put him over the 2 ton mark, let a lone 2000 pounds.
WHAT? Name one feat of his over the 2 ton mark....you realize thats 4000 pounds right?

Originally posted by Mshinu
That is reinforced concrete.. concrete alone has a density of at least 2000kg/m^3 and there would be several hundered pounds of metal in there as well. Considering how big beast is I still say that thing is several tons.

extremely doubt full it even ton, and he dident lift it, he took part of it and moved it, which would be a small fraction of the weight and strength to achieve such a feat, well under 2000 pounds.

Originally posted by Starscream M
WHAT? Name one feat of his over the 2 ton mark....you realize thats 4000 pounds right?

easy when his body was made to weight ton's.......and the floor gave out before he did.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
extremely doubt full it even ton, and he dident lift it, he took part of it and moved it, which would be a small fraction of the weight and strength to achieve such a feat, well under 2000 pounds.

What figures do you use to conclude the block weighs under one ton?

Originally posted by Mshinu
What figures do you use to conclude the block weighs under one ton?

what messurements did you do? I not wasting my time figuring that out, I doubt it over 1 ton. It certainly does not take 2000 pounds to accomplish what beast did. He lifted a second of it few inches at best of the ground hell I am not even sure he lifted it compeltely off the ground. In no way is the superior to wolverines feats