Originally posted by Stoic
Proof is needed because that is a very bold thing to state. No one wants to turn around and see the JL beat DS in his so called true form, only to realize that this is the same guy that either gave the Antimonitor a rough time, or outright defeated.
Wait a minute, not directed at you but did they mention in DCNU that Darkseid has Avatars?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
^@stoic and Carver, Galan posted the scans where they state that they exist in a split state. So what we see is a fraction of DS power.
But we still have to see this claim that you made. Saying that a character is as or more powerful than Thor is one thing, but when you claim that they're more powerful than Galactus it's another thing entirely. We need proof. Odin could one shot the entire JL if he were trying to. There's a large difference between the Herald tier and the Elite Trans tier. Galactus is well above both. For all we know the JL may be able to defeat the Antimonitor. I mean we have to see just how powerful DC's intents for the character are.
Originally posted by Stoic
But we still have to see this claim that you made. Saying that a character is as or more powerful than Thor is one thing, but when you claim that they're more powerful than Galactus it's another thing entirely. We need proof. Odin could one shot the entire JL if he were trying to. There's a large difference between the Herald tier and the Elite Trans tier. Galactus is well above both. For all we know the JL may be able to defeat the Antimonitor. I mean we have to see just how powerful DC's intents for the character are.
After the latest showings i would put Galactus lower, Thor managed to damage him, Odin stalemated him for a while etc. FC is still canon, so is True Darkseid, as is the fact that differen't versions of the New Gods exist in the DCnU and Highfather stated they are split apart. Sure it's speculation on my part, the power level compared to Odin and Galactus, but DS Avatar destroying Universes is badass enough for me.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeDS Avatars destroying universes would put him quite a bit above Odin and G it seems.
After the latest showings i would put Galactus lower, Thor managed to damage him, Odin stalemated him for a while etc. FC is still canon, so is True Darkseid, as is the fact that differen't versions of the New Gods exist in the DCnU and Highfather stated they are split apart. Sure it's speculation on my part, the power level compared to Odin and Galactus, but DS Avatar destroying Universes is badass enough for me.
Originally posted by Galan007what's your take on current darkseid? Do you think he can win against thanos?
Constantine #22-23.Universe-busting isn't explicitly shown, it's just mentioned. Don't recall it being stated that it was just an avatar, though... Seemed like it was 'true-form' Darkseid to me. /shrug
^ i recall "universal death" being stated in the same scan where Parademons where shown destroying shit. I don't remember any instances where Darkseid, personally, is destroying a universe. Statements saying Darkseid consumed a universe doesn't apply since it can also mean Darkseid and his forces did it, which is the most likely scenario since we see Parademons everywhere.
Originally posted by deathslashAnti-Monitor is currently running around absorbing the energy of entire universeS just to prep for his battle with Darkseid. Based on that, Darkseid *should* be considerably above Thanos.
what's your take on current darkseid? Do you think he can win against thanos?
Feat-wise, however, we haven't seen him do anything *that* outstanding yet--I'd say he and Thanos are peers currently.
Originally posted by Galan007
Constantine #22-23.Universe-busting isn't explicitly shown, it's just mentioned. Don't recall it being stated that it was just an avatar, though... Seemed like it was 'true-form' Darkseid to me. /shrug
Multiversity Guidebook. Higfather and the new Gods state that each World hosts Multiple Emnanations of Darkseid and the other Gods, we see also there a differen't version of the New Gods, not the ones from DCnU. The only logical conclusion is, that those fragments, or Avatars if you will, are not the True Darkseid. This is further supported by Mr. Miracles statement about Darkseid "He's rebuilding his Godhead from shattered Fragments".