Originally posted by lil bitchiness
We're all off to hell anyway by those deffinitions...😛How man boys who are brought up by their father to be strong and very manly like turn out to be gay...even though their socalisation has been very different and non gay related.
Why do you insist on trying to tie everything down to single situation absolutes? That is an odd thing to do. There is no single thing that absolutely determines someone's sexuality- you need to wrap your head around that.
I think that If gay's want to marry than they should be able to.
It's not so much the religion thing but as the leagal aspect of in. In America leagal marrages have certian allotments or perks (I don't know specifics).
I also don't believe that a person chooses to be gay, a person chooses to be straight. I f you remember correctly everyone is gay when they are little, it is a natural fear of difference. So when Puberty strikes, then it is a choice to persue the opposite sex.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Why do you insist on trying to tie everything down to single situation absolutes? That is an odd thing to do. There is no single thing that absolutely determines someone's sexuality- you need to wrap your head around that.
You are doing the smilar though...
I believe socialisation is a key factor to building the personality of an individual, but not their sexuality.
Homosexuality is known in the animal kingdom as well...a certain species of monkeys..i will look it up now...
Originally posted by Sugar Kane
Only if you believe in Hell, but it just seems like a scare tactic to me, to keep the people in line...but that is just my opinion, no judgement on anyone who believes in it...
Totally! 👆
I dont bleieve in it...in fact, if there is such thing as Hell, we're in it right now.
There is no need to create a supernatural evil being...men alone are capable of every wickidness.
I f you remember correctly everyone is gay when they are little, it is a natural fear of difference. So when Puberty strikes, then it is a choice to persue the opposite sex.
Huh? I remember having crushes on boys way before puberty started at 5 years old- I never remember being attracted to girls...that is a very strange statement to make... 😕
Originally posted by Sugar Kane
Huh? I remember having crushes on boys way before puberty started at 5 years old- I never remember being attracted to girls...that is a very strange statement to make... 😕
I dont think thats what he meant, you know when you're a kid you're like: "ewwwwwww boys, or ewwwww girls" thats it.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You are doing the smilar though...I believe socialisation is a key factor to building the personality of an individual, but not their sexuality.
Homosexuality is known in the animal kingdom as well...a certain species of monkeys..i will look it up now...
Err, I am not even vaguely doing a similar thing- that is a nonsense comment. I accused you of trying to pin things down to single socures. my entire argument is that sexuality is incredibly complex and cannot be pinned down to any one source.
Believe what you want, but I can only repeat that it is a basic tenet of psychology that environment and upbringing can affect EVERYTHING in a person's life.
Originally posted by yerssot
I respect people's opinion when it comes to religion cause it's a personal thing
but I do not believe for one second in itI just wrote that stone-thingie to show that TF's preciousssss bible also says that if you have or never made any sins THAN you can judge, TF clearly said he is no perfect christian, therefor sinned and can not judge anyone if you follow his thought of christianity
did you read the rest of the beginning,
ugh
That verse is talking about a woman that is caught commiting adultery, the ppl that have caught her take her to Jesus and tell Jesus that she needs to be stoned, and Jesus tells them that you who is without sin can cast the first stone, no one threw the stone and they walked away, afterwards Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more.
My position in this matter is not the stone thrower, it's more of Jesus, i'm trying to tell the ppl to change their ways
Sorry ush, I read up to page 9 and got tired, and then read the last two and tried to figure it out.
Experiences give DO influence sexuality, but it is not the only thing, There may be some Biological thing but I doubt it.
I think it is mainly experiences but it other things affect sexuality, but when it comes down to it it is one thing, Choice. We should not peanalize people for their choice if it is not hurting anyoen else.
Also, I think two big misconceptions need clearing here.
First, that sexualiy is digital- gay/bisexual/straigjht. That is nonsense- seuxality is fluid. People have dispensations, not certainties. Some 'straight' people have no obejction to experiementing with the opposite sex but would reject it as a lifestyle. These things cannot be pinned down into definitive categories.
The second is that only conservatives thing that choice is a factor in homosexuality. Wrong- it is radicals, also.
Originally posted by God_is_the_way_
In the beginning their were no "gay*s" God made us to be with the opposite sex and to allow same sex marriages is against God*s wishes! Love was made to be between a man and a women 😄 And I think we should keep it that way!P.s. Bush rocks!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay it looks like someone made a sock.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err, I am not even vaguely doing a similar thing- that is a nonsense comment. I accused you of trying to pin things down to single socures. my entire argument is that sexuality is incredibly complex and cannot be pinned down to any one source.Believe what you want, but I can only repeat that it is a basic tenet of psychology that environment and upbringing can affect EVERYTHING in a person's life.
Uuuuhuh!!
You used your own case as an example of what you were trying to say.
Originally posted by The Force
did you read the rest of the beginning,ugh
That verse is talking about a woman that is caught commiting adultery, the ppl that have caught her take her to Jesus and tell Jesus that she needs to be stoned, and Jesus tells them that you who is without sin can cast the first stone, no one threw the stone and they walked away, afterwards Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more.My position in this matter is not the stone thrower, it's more of Jesus, i'm trying to tell the ppl to change their ways