Bush calls for gay marriage ban

I am sure that many people who are not religious would see Bush as a bigot- I for one do. I'm sure glad that he's not my president...Blair may be an idiot but he's less of a bigot. It makes me angry that government thinks that it has the right to control something so personal as who can marry whom- aren't we able to make any decisions for ourselves?! This violates peoples freedom to be who they are, and love who they want to love and I find it really sad. 🙁 I think that this is a giant step back.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Why would anyone agree that someone is born as a homosexual? Homosexuality is a choice...not a hereditary trait.

WRONG!!

It is a scinetific fact that homosexuals are born homosexuals. Its to do with the brain. There is are points in our brain that tell our body if we are male or female and which hormones are to be produced in the brain according to our sex. There are also points which control our gender adn also tell us who we are attracted to...male or females..sometimes both. In homosexuals this is a little different, not entiraly sure i can explin it properly, but something is missing, so it gets body confused and as a result they are attracted to the same sex, or both sexes.

Its natural thing, and its not weird or terrible or a sin of any kind...

WHOA!

It is NOT a scientific fact, not even vaguely. That is a HIGHLY contentious point. In any case, genetics are flexible, and people are born with dispositions, not hard-wired behaviours.

Yeah it's totally ridiculous that some people think they can CONTROL which sex they want to be attracted to.

Im sure many people will disagree with you Ush...You might wanna check how many people commit suicide because they are homosexuals and are afraid to come out because of how they will be treated!!

Oh yeah...its their choice!

That's a very absurd interpretation of saying that it is not hereditary, Raz.

Originally posted by Sugar Kane
I am sure that many people who are not religious would see Bush as a bigot- I for one do. I'm sure glad that he's not my president...Blair may be an idiot but he's less of a bigot. It makes me angry that government thinks that it has the right to control something so personal as who can marry whom- aren't we able to make any decisions for ourselves?! This violates peoples freedom to be who they are, and love who they want to love and I find it really sad. 🙁 I think that this is a giant step back.

Yes I agree! 👆

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's a very absurd interpretation of saying that it is not hereditary, Raz.

If anyone believes that a person would choose a lifestyle for which they are discrimated against on a daily basis, then these people are seriously deluded. I didn't choose to be heterosexual- I just am, I don't know why- I was just born that way and it is exactly the same for homosexuals.

There is absolutely no conclusive proof that it is hereditary. There is at the very least just as much evidence to say it is not. From personal experience adn association I say it is not.

Sexuality is a VERY complex area and many, many factors go towards determining it, and choice is one of them. To try and pin down sexuality to 'you are born that way'- that IS absurd.

Sugar Kane - exactly my point was...

Originally posted by Sugar Kane
If anyone believes that a person would choose a lifestyle for which they are discrimated against on a daily basis, then these people are seriously deluded. I didn't choose to be heterosexual- I just am, I don't know why- I was just born that way and it is exactly the same for homosexuals.

What the heck is that, you think people would deliberately not 'chose' it because they are worried about what others might think? How ridiculous! People make counter-social choices all the time. What do you think Gay Pride is?

Newsflash:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GAY GENE!

Ush, theres a thing called Denial. People try to supress what they don't like.

Absolutely (to cinermaaddiction)

And I know that, Raz. But that has no bearing at all. The idea that homosexuality HAS to be genetic just because no-one would chose a discriminated against lifestyle is also ludicrous

Who says it's herediatary? That is a dumb suggestion- you may be born with your sexual preference, but it is certainly not a hereditary trait- it's not like inheriting your Dad's nose- your don't inherit your sexuality!! If that were the case, how were any homosexuals born?! D'oh!

See this is my point subjects like this should not be allowed on this site...that is just my opinion👆

you may disagree with homosexuals...but I am one...it is my choice to live like this---no straight person can tell me how to live...i do not give a flying **** what people say about me---it isn't their life it is mine!

I don't think anyone suggested it was inherited from the parents. It's something you're born with, and you just have to deal with it.

How and why, no-one knows.

(in full agreement with Sugarkane and Shoukan)

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So because some people fali to understand some things, or are closed minded on that field, that should be restricted to other peolpe...made illegal.

yeah pretty much, except when the ppl fully understand homosexuality, like ppl that follow rules of the Bible, we know it's wrong and we try to tell other ppl, but some ppl refuse to beleive what we call the truth, so there are those same close-minded ppl that throw out the information that we give them about homosexuality, which they don't like

it's just like circular reasoning