Batman vs Captain America

Still, captian america could kick his ass. people are always like "if batman had enough time to plan he could beat cap." bullshit. hell, gimme 5 years and bats money and i could beat batman. nuff said.

If I gave you five years, I don't think you'd have time to master even one martial arts discipline; Batman has mastered many, many forms of martial arts, and blended them together into his own discipline. And unless you're a born genius, you wouldn't have a prayer of ever becoming the type of stratagest Batman is. Not to mention being the detective he is. And Batman is one of the greatest escape artists in the DC universe, perhapse second to Scott Free. I wonder how long it would take you to master that particular area? Not to mention Batman's knowledge of chemistry, which is extreme. I could go on, but perhaps I've made my point?

I'd nuke the batcave.

You have access to nuclear weapons? I'm not not sure whether that's impressive or scary. And how many people know where the Batcave is?

Anyway, you could nuke Captain America's hide-out with the same effect, so it's not like this is some weakness unique to Batman.

Ohkay, if i had the money and reasources either cap or bats did, which i would need to be in this fight, i'd buy a nuke and that would be that, beotch.

That still relies on you knowing where the Batcave is. And it relies on you being willing to murder hundreds of thousands of innocent Gothamites. Are you some sort of psychopath?

Hello, my name is MADcap.

There's a difference between being mad and being murderously insane. And you still haven't told me how you're going to find the Batcave. And you've said you'd buy a nuclear weapon, but being rich and having the sort of connections you'd need in the arms industry to by a nuclear weapon aren't the same thing. I'm sorry, but I don't buy it.

So? Okay, mr. nay-say, here's the lay out. Some higher being pulls Captian america and batman from thier repsective unvieses right as thier stooping some bad guys, right? both are totally unaware anf have absolutly no time to plan. they are told to fight, and they feel and urge come over them as though they want to kill the other. batmans moves are flashy and fun to look at, but no more that usless. sure, he has fighting traing and immense knowlege, but cap has delat like poeple much worse than bats, aka Dr. Doom, and won. batman wouyld use his batarang, gasbombs, ect, but cap has reflesxes way beyond that of batman. cap is fast enough to respond to bullets. and thier is no way batman can throw somthing hard enough to equal the speed of a bullet. so after he's done with his bat 'toys', cap throws his shield, batman is smart enough to duck this, rushes cap and they start fighting. eventually the shiled comes back, and batman is tangling ith cap, cap cathces it, and bops old brucey, making the K.O.

Batman has faught worse than Captain America and won.

You think Captain America is much faster and has much better reflexes, but that's just your opinion, and it has never been proven, at least as far as I've read. The editors of Marvel and DC obviously believe that they are almost exactly even, since both the fights between them that weren't decided by the fans ended in draws. Why should I take your word over theirs?

And Batman's moves are "worthless"? I'm sorry, but have you ever read a Batman comic in your life?

Incidently, Batman can catch arrows with his back turned. What makes you think he won't notice the shield coming back?

no, because he will be to busy getting his ass kicked by cap. And the ediotrs only made them even so the fans wouldn't get pissed off. and cap has dealt with far, far far worse than anything batsy has ever dealt with. And how do i know that cap has enhcanced skills? Pick up the marvel rpg, made by the editors of marvel. cap is clearly capacble of doging and blocking bullets, and is a much more capable fighter, being at maxium superhuman potential. *****. i gots my sources directly form marvel.

No. Batman loses to Judge Dredd. All sorts of people lose to each other in the recent crossover. If they're so worried about upsetting fans, why don't all the fights end in draws?

I get my information directly from Marvel, too. Or don't actual comics published by Marvel count?

Do you really have an acurrate protrayle of his powers in those comics, becuase i have his actuals limits and ablities right here in front of me. and you know why batman lost to judge dreed? becuase he has guns. and lots of 'em.

And the Marvel directory claims that Captain America has the abilities of an Olympic level athlete. Nothing about catching bullets there.

Batman lost to Dredd in a hand to hand fight that lasted for almost the entire comic. No guns involved.

HA! i never said anything about cathing bullets! just dodging and blocking via shield! suckaduck, and batman dosn't use guns.so it don't matter anyway. anyway, captian america can beat batman in a striaght on fight.

Well, Batman dodges bullets too.

I'm not saying that Batman would win, but I think it would be closer than you're making it out to be.

And in a sense, I don't think it even matters who would win in a "fair fight." Batman has never lost a fight because he was concerned about being fair...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gregory
[B]And the Marvel directory claims that Captain America has the abilities of an Olympic level athlete. Nothing about catching bullets there.

I must correct you there Greg. Batman and others like Daredevil, Black-widow other non-powered(not including senses) are Olympic level athletes and gymnasts/acrobats but Cap(as I keep saying) is and I quote Marvel Encyclopedia ' stronger, more agile and has quicker reactions than the best Olympic athlete', and I as I also keep saying has a level of physical conditioning unattainable by training alone(but with super-soldier serum and bombardment of 'vita-rays' followed by vigorous physical training and strategic martial training).

My mistake. But how do you know that Batman is only Olympic level? Is it published anywhere?

big thanks to Spider-dan for this info.....

http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/Batman_Bio.htm

and here is cap's.......

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm

Originally posted by Gregory
My mistake. But how do you know that Batman is only Olympic level? Is it published anywhere?

That's a fair point actually.Not too sure. Even if not as fast as the fastest sprinters or as strong as the strongest lifters or agile as the best gymnast/acrobats, Batman and probably Daredevil are certainly better at all than anyone else could be(except cap IMO). They'd be better decathlete's than any certainly. Sorry for being os technical, I'm a sports enthuseast too.