I just read this thread, Have to say I didnt see to much about either Rock or Rap.
just a bunch of nonsense. Im not going to pretend like I know hip hop but I do know there IS a difference between the sh!t on MTV and actual music/musical talent
most RAP is what they play on MTV right? and Hip Hop is the good stuff?
or underground?
not to mention...what ROCK are you talking about? isnt there industrial, nu-metal, death metal, Punk*wich I cant stand*, hardcore rock, alternative rock, classic rock, rock and roll, rap metal, old school rock........
Originally posted by Cartman12388
again lets get this right alllllllllllllll music is derived from rock wether it be blues jazz or rap that is a proven fact it does not matter what you listen to it came from rock so in ending this arguement listen to what you want just know it came from rock wether you like it or not
Obviously you're the one who knows nothing about music here. I'll give you a brief history of music, m'kay?
Okay, so a long time ago, in the middle ages, there was very little written music. Mostly it was just a bunch of wandering minstrels and other professional musicians who went around and played for nobles. In the Renaissance era, people started writing down music... It was a pretty primitive system of notation though.
So from Renaissance music evolved Baroque music, which people still play and listen today. Bach is the most obvious example of a Baroque era composer. The characteristics of Baroque music are that it is heavy on strings, there are fewer wind instruments, and little piano music... mostly you just see harpsichords and organs, as pianos were fairly crappy back then.
So then came classical, and later the romantic or victorian era. Guys like Beethoven and Mozart were the pioneers of classical and romantic music. There is a lot more piano in this time period, and it is less "ordered" so to speak.
Meanwhile, in Africa, people were still banging on drums made of logs and goat skin, forming complex rythms with small percussion groups. Around this time, people of European descent started taking Africans back to Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Americas to be slaves. It was here that early Latin music started, with the combination of African percussion and Spanish/Middle Eastern stringed instruments.
Later, in the American South, came the advent of what would prove to be probably the most influential musical genre thus far: blues. This was during and before the Civil War, and during the Reconstruction era that followed it. It originated from the huge plantations where small armies of African slaves were kept by plantation owners. They had really crappy lives, so they decided to start a musical genre based on little other than their sheer musical talent and the incredible crappiness of their lives. It ended up sounding really great. It was very little like people think of blues nowadays... Mostly what you saw was a guy with an acoustic guitar and a nice voice singing and playing, and occasionally a bass and some drums.
Now, by the turn of the century, this blues thing was really catching on in the black population. Even now that they were officially "free", their lives still really sucked, for the most part. And again, they poured their sadness, their anger, and their beautiful deep, rich voices into their music. Blues kept evolving up through the '20's and '30's, and jazz and swing came out of it during this time period.
Now, here's the part you've all been waiting for. This is the part where blues turns into rock. There was once a young man named Elvis Presley. He was white, unlike every other blues musician at the time. He wasn't much of a guitarist, but he had a hell of a voice, and he was destined to be the man who brought blues to mainstream white America. He got a hold of some old blues tunes, recorded them, and the rest is history (heh, always wanted to say that 😊 ). The other half of blues, however, turned into gospel, soul, and R&B, all of which used to be beautiful genres.
So after Elvis, came 50's rock, out of which eventually came surf guitar (Dick Dale and the Del Tones), acid rock (The Grateful Dead), heavy metal (Led Zeppelin), punk (the Ramones), glam rock (I won't mention any glam rock bands, because this was just a bad, bad phase music went through), and a shitload of other rock sub-genres that I'm too lazy to list.
So you see, as far as modern music goes, it all started with good ol' Jim Crow down in Mississippi singin' the blues. I guess you were wrong after all. 😊
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that was good. kick ass!!
lets see how cartmans going to respond to that
So then came classical, and later the romantic or victorian era. Guys like Beethoven and Mozart were the pioneers of classical and romantic music. There is a lot more piano in this time period, and it is less "ordered" so to speak.
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