I always enjoy a good argument about thanos's prowess but I think this is a hard one. Why because this battle wouldnt be one of who is stronger its going to be a battle of wills. especially since the Sword of Truth, IG,THOTU the GL ring are fueled by will power. so what it will boil down to is whatever case you can make for one you can easily make for the other, so I'll be different and call it a stalemate
Originally posted by Beyonder
Thanks, I thought he had only one GL ring.Another thing is, Thanos can erase Prime out of existance can't he; half the universe was taken out this way. With simple thoughts he captured the cosmic bridgade that wanted him to hand over the Infinity Gems and captured Eternity as well. I doubt Prime would do well against the Celestials and Death or, Eternity himself - he'd have to work for it. Thanos, however, stood around smurking and infuriating everyone - then casually beat them.
Warlock with the Gauntlet put a hurting on Eternity with one blast after Eternity pissed him off as LT was ruling on the gems fate. Prime would need more than one blow to hurt someone like Eternity.
I dont know, reality warping power's are so difficult to gauge. both can warp reality, but if one can warp reality better than the other would be anybody's guess
manjaro
I always enjoy a good argument about thanos's prowess but I think this is a hard one. Why because this battle wouldnt be one of who is stronger its going to be a battle of wills. especially since the Sword of Truth, IG,THOTU the GL ring are fueled by will power. so what it will boil down to is whatever case you can make for one you can easily make for the other, so I'll be different and call it a stalemate
Actually no. If Thanos or anyone had the Heart of the Universe, a simple thought would turn Prime back to regular Superman. The Heart put Thanos at TOAA level.
VENOMFan
I dont know, reality warping power's are so difficult to gauge. both can warp reality, but if one can warp reality better than the other would be anybody's guess
The mind gem gives Thanos the power to read minds. I think he can read Prime's mind. And we're talking about the gems being used in unison, that basically means the mind gems power is busted by that of the Power Gems. His Space gem allows him to be anywhere in space if he chooses, I don't think Prime's gone be able to fight someone who can be anywhere in space with a thought.
manjaro
but isnt S Prime empowered by the presence or something?(not sure) which pretty much makes him, it, she, they, her, we, us on the DC counter part to TOAA. so how could a being of such immese power's machinatins be undone?
Not to my knowledge. He stayed in the Super Sun for a long time and absorbed its powers. After he came out, he was Superman Prime. Thanos with the Heart was above Living Tribunal, where as Prime is in my opinion lower then Eternity and Death. He might be above the Celestials, yet we don't even know that.
Prime hasn't fought any one that can be used to gauge his level. Again, Odin and Mephisto are consider god and demon, beating them doesn't help. The Celestials gave Odin and asgard a hard time; they were like pest to the Celestials.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Actually no. If Thanos or anyone had the Heart of the Universe, a simple thought would turn Prime back to regular Superman. The Heart put Thanos at TOAA level.The mind gem gives Thanos the power to read minds. I think he can read Prime's mind. And we're talking about the gems being used in unison, that basically means the mind gems power is busted by that of the Power Gems. His Space gem allows him to be anywhere in space if he chooses, I don't think Prime's gone be able to fight someone who can be anywhere in space with a thought.
Superman Prime IS Superman. There is no "turning back". Superman, by exiling himself in the sun(the source of his power), became immortal, and gained many new powers. Superman Prime also has telepathic powers. Superman can also warp reality, time, and space. That means, warping time and space, he can teleport like Thanos can. a good example of this is Pip and the space gem, he teleports.
Never already posted a bio, and a link. Just read it.
Originally posted by VENOMfan
he sword of truth is basicly for altering reality, he can change whatever into what he see's fit.the GL ring's are just that, GL rings. he has all of them. tho I didnt even know there was more than one. but how ever many there are,
he has them
Actually, Superman Prime does only have ONE Green Lantern ring, but it is the LAST one, meaning all of the power from the main power source goes to that one.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Superman Prime IS Superman. There is no "turning back". Superman, by exiling himself in the sun(the source of his power), became immortal, and gained many new powers. Superman Prime also has telepathic powers. Superman can also warp reality, time, and space. That means, warping time and space, he can teleport like Thanos can. a good example of this is Pip and the space gem, he teleports.Never already posted a bio, and a link. Just read it.
then in that case, The Sword of Truth is merely an added bonus. then that means that its really a stalemate cuz thanos wouldnt be able to undo what is naturally inherent to superman
Arachnoidfreak
Superman Prime IS Superman. There is no "turning back". Superman, by exiling himself in the sun(the source of his power), became immortal, and gained many new powers. Superman Prime also has telepathic powers. Superman can also warp reality, time, and space. That means, warping time and space, he can teleport like Thanos can. a good example of this is Pip and the space gem, he teleports.
Of course Superman is Superman, you know what I meant. Thanos with the Heart would turn Superman Prime back to twentieth century Superman (regular Supes). Prime is basically a living battery of solar power, he still can be drainned. Unless you're saying that the Super Sun's energy is greater than TOAA's power or Living Tribunals.
Not just teleport, regular joe Thanos can teleport as well. Thanos with the Gauntlet can become part of space. How's Prime going to fight someone who's part of space and is attacking him with mere thoughts. Thanos need only to think and his wishes come true; that's how most of his fight went.
Even with a small portion of the Gauntlet's power, he wasted the heroes, turning people into stone and such. And that bio about Prime pointed out that Krytonite/Knight Fragment was the weapon intended by Solaris to kill Superman Prime, only he didn't succeed in attain it. After a hard battle, Thanos would only need to access Prime's mind using the Mind gems power to attain the weakness to the "K" stuff. A simple thought and Thanos has a nice chunk of krytonite in his hand. Good bye Superman Prime. 😉 And don't say he can't. He turned people into stone and such, Krytonite is just another mineral - nothing special.
As for the telepathic powers, the Mind gem is busted by the Power gem. Jean has telepathy as well, but it doesn't mean that she's Xavier's level, having telepathic powers doesn't put Prime above a weapon (mind gem) whose sole purpose has to do with the mind itself, who is working in unison with a weapon (power gem) that's meant to busted any power to near infinite levels if the user is knowledgable. Thanos' was - only because he had access to all the gems which worked together to give the wielder near limitless power and universal status. Only LT proved the greater in terms of power.
And Prime's enemy was Solaris, Thanos' fight was with Eternity, Death, Celestials, etc.
I know full well of what Thanos has done, and is capable of, he is among my favorite characters, ever. That doesn't mean he is going to have an easy time with Superman Prime. Who knows if Kryptonite still affects him anyhow? Solaris didn't have a clue. He just knew that Kryptonite WAS Superman's weakness. He could have been in for a surprise.
I know, this was Elseworlds, but it's possible. In Kingdom Come, someone asks Luthor "Can't we just drop a K-Bomb on Big Blue's spit-curl?" Luthor responds "Sadly, Mr. Queen, Kryptonite no longer packs the punch it did in the good old days...as I learned the hard way. Chlak it up to the solar radiation Superman's cells have been guzzling all these years. He's at the height of his invulnerability"
The fact that it's an Elseworlds title has nothing to do with anything. The possibility's still there.
Arachnoidfreak
I know full well of what Thanos has done, and is capable of, he is among my favorite characters, ever. That doesn't mean he is going to have an easy time with Superman Prime. Who knows if Kryptonite still affects him anyhow? Solaris didn't have a clue. He just knew that Kryptonite WAS Superman's weakness. He could have been in for a surprise.
I know, this was Elseworlds, but it's possible. In Kingdom Come, someone asks Luthor "Can't we just drop a K-Bomb on Big Blue's spit-curl?" Luthor responds "Sadly, Mr. Queen, Kryptonite no longer packs the punch it did in the good old days...as I learned the hard way. Chlak it up to the solar radiation Superman's cells have been guzzling all these years. He's at the height of his invulnerability"
The fact that it's an Elseworlds title has nothing to do with anything. The possibility's still there.
True but consider who is smarter Lex or Solaris. If Lex came to a conclusion as such, Solaris isn't going to? If Solaris felt that Kryptonite would kill Prime, it mostlikely would - unless Solaris is that stupid which I doubt.
Knowing it is one thing but acknowledging is another. Thanos with simple thoughts took out cosmic beings. And in that bio, it stated that the GL ring was Solaris' weakness and he'd never encounter it. Ironically, Prime beat him with a GL ring, as oppose to Solaris beating Prime with Kryptonite. Can Prime even do what Thanos did to the cosmic beings?
Here's to remain everything of what the Titan did with the Gauntlet:
A doom birthed and nurtured within the mad ambitions of a black soul . Thanos defends his divinity . Let the heavens tremble . The two Celestials draft helpless planets into the conflict , using them as weapons of war . The fact that some of these worlds are inhabited by sentient life cannot be considered in this galaxy spanning contest . With the speed of thought their menacing potential is neutralized by power without limit . But a second later it becomes apparent that their sacrifice was but a ploy , a diversionary tactic . For the true thrust of the assult comes from Chronos , who seeks to bury the Tian deep within the layers of time long forgotten . A futile hope . For one of the Infinity Gems on Thanos's gauntlet gives him mastery over that which seeks to over-whelm him . It be like striving to drown an ocean . Yet defeat is answered with renewed vigor : a two-front assault by Lord Chaos and Master Order . They hope to dichotomize the Titan . A divided enemy is an easier foe to deal with . But Thanos refuses to surrender his individuality . And the battle continues to rage without pause . Forces combined to add up to more than the sum of their total . The temporal is abandoned for pure force of energy . And the sheer intensity of Galactus , the Stranger and Eon's blitzcrieg catches the mad titan off balance . Yet it is but a minor setback for Thanos , one that can be overcome with a mere wish . Mistress Love and Master Hate attempt to manipulate Thanos's emotions . The conflicting emotions are tearing the Ma Titan apart . Thanos stops them his way . But also beware decievers , Titan . Thanos is surrounded by hell's fire . Mephisto is trying for the gauntlet . A utter folly for Thanos is going to kill Mephisto for his lack of loyalty , but is stopped by Mistress Death . Thanos is hurt deeply by Mistress Death's hate for him . All the Cosmic Entities attack Thanos as one . The Mad God is vaporized into mere atoms , but only for a moment . Because with a mere though Thanos traps the entities in suspended animation . 'Tis truly the best way ! Divinity calls for clear thinking , unburdened with chaotic emotion . Let Thanos be rid of all illusions . Fot he is Thanos , and Thanos is Supreme . Who is there to argue with that sentiment ? Now that his foot soldiers have fallen proud Eternity at last deigns to show himself . To reclaim that which Eternity believes to be his and himself . Control of this reality . The battle lasts a mere second . Thanos retains his godhood. ✅