Thanos Vs Superman Prime

Lex came to that conclusion by "finding out the hard way" meaning he tried using it on Supes, and it didn't work. Solaris never had the chance to do the same. The green thing he found that he thought was Kryptonite was actually the last GL ring, so he led to his own undoing. Superman wouldn't just hand Thanos a slab of Kryptonite.

Well, it's not like there's not alot of info on Prime out there anyway. the DC One Million titles only lasted for a short period. It's not as if it was an ongoing title. Thanos is everywhere, Superman Prime is in what...10 comics? You are probably never going to get the answers you seek, because Superman Prime's character was never developed so well.

Arachnoidfreak

Lex came to that conclusion by "finding out the hard way" meaning he tried using it on Supes, and it didn't work. Solaris never had the chance to do the same. The green thing he found that he thought was Kryptonite was actually the last GL ring, so he led to his own undoing. Superman wouldn't just hand Thanos a slab of Kryptonite.

Well, it's not like there's not alot of info on Prime out there anyway. the DC One Million titles only lasted for a short period. It's not as if it was an ongoing title. Thanos is everywhere, Superman Prime is in what...10 comics? You are probably never going to get the answers you seek, because Superman Prime's character was never developed so well.

Ah, missed that part about "the hard way." And no, Thanos doesn't need Prime to hand him Kryptonite since he can just wish it into being. Kryptonite isn't anything special - just another mineral. Thanos turned Thor into stone with a thought and created an entire citadel in empty space - Kryptonite is but within a mere thought.

It's true Prime doesn't have that much showing; however, that's exactly my point. He did a few things and was stated to be this and that. But Thanos actually did things with the Gauntlet that could be gauged. The Infinity Gauntlet series was only about 6 comics as well. There isn't anything to say that Prime would win against Death or Eternity - Prime's greatest enemy was Solaris who I doubt would be on the level as Death or even Eternity.

And if a character doesn't have many showings, should we give him victory or a chance? Thanos actually beat people and can be put above Eternity in status.

Simple question here is can Prime be put above Eternity? Can Prime beat Eternity or Death or Kronos with a mere thought? If not, I think he's not going to give Thanos trouble.

Well, using your same logic, I can say that there isn't any proof showing that Prime ISN'T that powerful, and that he COULD give Thanos more than a good run for his money.

That's what makes it a good match.

Exactly.

Arachnoidfreak

Well, using your same logic, I can say that there isn't any proof showing that Prime ISN'T that powerful, and that he COULD give Thanos more than a good run for his money.

You can say that, no doubt. But Thanos beat people with mere thoughts. Prime used to GL ring to fight Solaris (and it stated in that bio that Solaris was vulnerable to the rings power). Prime didn't will people in catatonic states or erase them out of existence; he had to put effort which is different from mere thoughts. That there should give a clue as to who's more powerful.

Are you still talking about Thanos with the Heart, or just the Gauntlet? Because with the Gauntlet, their powers are almost exactly the same.(on paper at least)

Ever think that DC didn't WANT Prime to extinguish Solaris with a thought? Extending a battle is much more interesting thanmaking all your enemies disappear with a thought. He may very well have the power, and decided not to use it.

Arachnoidfreak

Are you still talking about Thanos with the Heart, or just the Gauntlet? Because with the Gauntlet, their powers are almost exactly the same.

Ever think that DC didn't WANT Prime to extinguish Solaris with a thought? Extending a battle is much more interesting thanmaking all your enemies disappear with a thought. He may very well have the power, and decided not to use it.

Are you still talking about Thanos with the Heart, or just the Gauntlet? Because with the Gauntlet, their powers are almost exactly the same.

Ever think that DC didn't WANT Prime to extinguish Solaris with a thought? Extending a battle is much more interesting thanmaking all your enemies disappear with a thought. He may very well have the power, and decided not to use it.

Nope, not the Heart just the Gauntlet.

Going by your logic that DC wanted to extend the fight, if so then wouldn't it also be true that Kryptonite would have killed Prime if Solaris did attain it since it's DC writters who brought Prime to life and DC 1 million stories to life? Everything the do and say - their very thought and action is dictated by writters.

And how are they powers the same. Both do have similar power but it doesn't mean that one is equal to another. If Prime had the power to take Solaris out, why even use the GL ring? Did the writters tell him that they wanted to extend the fight longer instead of with a mere thought? If they did, then S Prime is a sell out for extending the fight just because of money. And this is inconsistent of Superman who's always for justice and morality - he wouldn't extend a fight that could potentially harm innocent lives just to make money.

Yes, but that's not the way it went. Solaris THOUGHT he found Kryptonite, but it was the GL ring. No, it wouldn't be true that Kryptonite would still kill Superman, the writers may not have saw fit to end it that way(and they didn't).

DC extended the fight. What money?? Superman Prime himself doesn't make a dime. You are starting not to make any sense.

Arachnoidfreak

Yes, but that's not the way it went. Solaris THOUGHT he found Kryptonite, but it was the GL ring. No, it wouldn't be true that Kryptonite would still kill Superman, the writers may not have saw fit to end it that way(and they didn't).

Everything the characters say and do is based on what writters decide. Going by your logic earlier that maybe DC wanted extend the battle to make it more interesting, wasn't it THEIR decision. Solaris didn't find Kryptonite because the writters of DC wanted a twist in it: Kryptonite & GL rings are green, the twist would be instead of Solaris finding Kryptonite he found a GL ring and unknowingly used it (thinking it was "K"😉 to kill Superman, yet suprisingly it wasn't what he thought it was; it was actually a weapon he, Solaris, was weak against and used against. This isn't an original idea and you know it, but still interesting

Secondly, if were going by your logic about DC's decision and such, from that perspective we can also infer that Prime is weak against Kryptonite. Solaris beliefs and actions are that of writters. He was seeking Kryptonite to kill Prime because it can - because writters put down his thoughts and actions and everyone else including Prime's.

*From comicverse perspective - let's leave out companies & writters for a bit*
If Prime resistant against Kryptonite now, why interfere with Starman's time mission? Let Solaris get a hold of Kryptonite and "find out the hard way" that it does't work on Prime - Solaris then gets a cosmic ass kicking by Prime he'll never forget.

And if Prime is ultra powerful, why even need the GL ring at all to defeat Solaris?

DC extended the fight. What money?? Superman Prime himself doesn't make a dime. You are starting not to make any sense.

Sorry if I confused you. Earlier you stated DC wanted to make the fight more interesting than just wiping Solaris out with a mere thought, I assumed that by "making it more interesting" means the book would sell better if the fight was extended.

The part about the writters telling (you know, talking directly to the character bit) Prime to extend the fight so they making more money is just sacasim.

Anyhow, I read that site like you asked. I later looked through the Infinity Gauntlet books and found stuff I hadn't even remembered. If you still have them, take a look at #5 & 6. There's alot of things that would put an infinity gauntlet wielder above Prime any day - browse through it.

Adam Warlok and The Infinity Watch #1 demonstrates more of the Gauntlet's powers. Looked through it and found some impressive feats: Warlock snapped his fingers after the trial was over and Eternity was gone (Eternity has teleportation as well but he didn't come back), Warlock then jumped 60 days into the future, with a thought, to visit Thanos.

Everything the characters say and do is based on what writters decide. Going by your logic earlier that maybe DC wanted extend the battle to make it more interesting, wasn't it THEIR decision. Solaris didn't find Kryptonite because the writters of DC wanted a twist in it: Kryptonite & GL rings are green, the twist would be instead of Solaris finding Kryptonite he found a GL ring and unknowingly used it (thinking it was "K"😉 to kill Superman, yet suprisingly it wasn't what he thought it was; it was actually a weapon he, Solaris, was weak against and used against. This isn't an original idea and you know it, but still interesting

Secondly, if were going by your logic about DC's decision and such, from that perspective we can also infer that Prime is weak against Kryptonite. Solaris beliefs and actions are that of writters. He was seeking Kryptonite to kill Prime because it can - because writters put down his thoughts and actions and everyone else including Prime's.

You cannot infer that Superman would still be weak against Kryptonite. Solaris' beliefs would be that of the writer's choice, not necessarily what the writer believes. i.e. i don't believe there's a god, but I can still write a story containing him.

Sadly, I never completed the Infinity Gauntlet series, I only have 1-3, and I don't even remember where they are. I'll have to go digging through my crates again. Though I do have that issue of Warlock and the Infinity Watch.

Arachnoidfreak

Sadly, I never completed the Infinity Gauntlet series, I only have 1-3, and I don't even remember where they are. I'll have to go digging through my crates again. Though I do have that issue of Warlock and the Infinity Watch.

I'm not even going to bother refuting your statements writters - I'm confused myself about the analogue with believing god.

Anyhow, like you, I too don't have all the issues of the IG, missing 3 & 4. Maybe there's some way I can give you copies of 5 & 6 but just not sure how. I thought about scans but that might take for ever. In both five and six, there's a lot of fighting and feats of the Gauntlet's powers.

As for Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the shows some of the Gauntlet's powers but #5 and 6 of the IG saga has more.

The only part of I.G I'm missing is 6.

I have the "What if The Silver Surfer possessed the Infinity Gauntlet?" though. Which kicks major ass. To see Thanos and Adam Warlock get it handed to them.

-AC

Alpha Centauri

The only part of I.G I'm missing is 6.

I have the "What if The Silver Surfer possessed the Infinity Gauntlet?" though. Which kicks major ass. To see Thanos and Adam Warlock get it handed to them.

Don't have that one but I do have the "What If Impossible got the Infinity Gauntlet." Some funny stuff after he got it...Thanos wasn't happy for one.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THANOS AT ALL!!!!!!

I AM FUMING WITH ANGER!

I ALSO HAVE NOTHING WITH THE SILVER SURFER!!!

There is no question that Prime would destroy Thanos with very little attempt. However if Thanos did indeed have the Infinity gauntlet, there is pretty much no possible way that Prime alon could take down Thanos. I mean thanos took on Avengers, the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, the Hulk, the Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, Wolverine and more, single handedly while weilding the Gauntlet. Who ever posesses the Gauntlet has the absolute control of all aspects of time, space, power, reality, the mind and the soul and not to mention supreme power.

Originally posted by Beyonder

I don't doubt Prime's uber power. Yet I do have to disagree as we still can't even guage his level. What other impressive feats have he done?

Essentially this is your argument. You question his abilities because you have not read anything on him. This happens so often here - people choose an outcome based on their decent knowledge of ONE particular character.

You have the issue numbers. You have a synopsis. *snicker* @ "what ***other*** impressive feats has he done." You trivialize his fighting PAST the gates (and erm who do you think stopped him if he fought PAST the gates INTO heaven?) sans any knowledge of what the angels of the DC universe are capable of. Good God, did you read Morrison's run on JLA? The story arc entitled - ah shit, I forget. One sec...okay, "Heaven On Earth." JLA #7. READ it.

Here is a profile of ONE Angel, Asmodel.

"A former angel of the Bull-Host of Heaven, who fell to damnation after a rebellion and an encounter with Zauriel and the JLA. He used the Spectre-force to take over Hell and attempted to cleanse the Earth of sinners, but was defeated by the Spectre and Earth's super-heroes. He is currently imprisoned in Heaven, since Hell was not able to hold him. He still refuses to consider himself fallen."

The Spectre Force. Familiar with the Spectre Force? He fought MANY of these types and triumphed.

Arachnoidfreak is correct here. Superman Prime WITH the Sword of Truth AND the GL Ring.

Thanos has NO chance with The Infinity Gauntlet. PERIOD. Hello, the Green Lantern ring? That which is capable of doing WHATEVER it's wearer is capable of imagining - and its power is contingent on the user's will? SUPERMAN was able to shake off Mageddon with the assistance of Batman. This is Superman PRIME.

The Sword of Truth warps reality. Time. Space. Heh, I LOVE Marvel characters. I do not LIKE DC characters (only Batman really).

Thanos loses.

"Don't have that one but I do have the "What If Impossible got the Infinity Gauntlet." Some funny stuff after he got it...Thanos wasn't happy for one."

It's a fairly short issue but it's great. I'll scan some pics today.

I only need one more Surfer "What if....?". The "What if Surfer had not betrayed Galactus?". Coz my goal is to own all the comics Surfer has appeared. Although I have tons, I'm a fair bit away.

On topic however, it's definately a closely debated thread if not a close fight. I'm pleased that such a topic could be created from mine brain.

Doesn't Superman Prime have Omega beams? I'm pretty sure I remember him having them. Omega something anyway.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Doesn't Superman Prime have Omega beams? I'm pretty sure I remember him having them. Omega something anyway.

-AC

No.

Must have confused them with something else. GL's rings maybe.

-AC