Black Cat = Mary Jane Watson

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Dude, Back to the Future had a SCIENTIST in it, of course he'd be able to build a time machine. it's not an eighteen year old boy who made it. Marty in that movie just got mixed up in that mess he was in. That's totally different. and the reason I disreguarded your explanation was because it was a stupid excuse. There doesn't have to be an explanation for organics. the only reason you don't like the organics is because peter uses webshooters in the comics. but I bet that if it happened differently, and Spider-Man shot organic web, you'd go with organics.

Wow thats the most aggressive thing you have ever written on here. Very nice. 🙂

If they do have the black cat I would like to see her framed for the main bad guy's crime. Then spidey figures out she is innocent and they work together. 🙂

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Dude, Back to the Future had a SCIENTIST in it, of course he'd be able to build a time machine. it's not an eighteen year old boy who made it. Marty in that movie just got mixed up in that mess he was in. That's totally different. and the reason I disreguarded your explanation was because it was a stupid excuse. There doesn't have to be an explanation for organics. the only reason you don't like the organics is because peter uses webshooters in the comics. but I bet that if it happened differently, and Spider-Man shot organic web, you'd go with organics.

again you cripple your arguments big time here because Peter is a scientist as well.that is so lame to say of course he would be able to build a time machine because its never been done before,so if a time machine can be built- something thats never been done before,then they wont have any problem with a teenage scientist kid creating a formula.There have been many cases over the years of a teenage genius inventing something that no scientists ever invented so that old argument is lame.Its not different at all.thats where you are wrong big time because if he had had the organics in the beginning,I never would have got into spider-man as a character or grown fascinated with him in the first place because him CREATING the webshooters,was a big part of my fascination with him in the first place.I have said many times I don't like it because it butchers to death his character and makes him into a damn monster now and just dumbs down his character.

yeah will I would like to know how on earth with organics,he doesn't have to replenish his webbing,because with organics,he would eventually have to run out of it and he would be exhausted from shooting all that webbing out of his body.thats an explanation I know many people I have spoken to over the years bring up as well and they didn't even bother to give an explanation for it in the film because they know there are so many flaws and holes with the organics. sm 2 is a joke of a film because that is so laughable that he loses his powers to shoot webbing because he gets depressed,then somehow he gets the webbing back because he gets angry? horrible screenwriting.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Actually, I read the Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 movie novels, and When you read it, you learn that he actually got the costume from a guy who makes wrestling outfits, who had offered Peter to let him design a wrestling costume if he ever desided to become a professional wrestler, after peter's amazing wrestling match, performance. so Peter went there with the wrestling outfit on (Including the mask), and showed the man his sketches. and the man gladly designed it for him for free. And since Directors and screenwriters HIRE these guys to write the stories in book layout, They probably told him to put that in.

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
I read the books. I found it nearly as farfetched. (Free costume, who gives out anything of that quality for free?)

It was the Flying Dutchman's brother who made the costume. (Flying Dutchan's the guy who went up against bonesaw before spidey) so the flying Dutchman was the one who went to Spidey, because he was so happy that Spider-Man beat him, so he informed his brother about it.

Yeah, I know, I read it. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Parker
again you cripple your arguments big time here because Peter is a scientist as well.that is so lame to say of course he would be able to build a time machine because its never been done before,so if a time machine can be built- something thats never been done before,then they wont have any problem with a teenage scientist kid creating a formula.There have been many cases over the years of a teenage genius inventing something that no scientists ever invented so that old argument is lame.Its not different at all.thats where you are wrong big time because if he had had the organics in the beginning,I never would have got into spider-man as a character or grown fascinated with him in the first place because him CREATING the webshooters,was a big part of my fascination with him in the first place.I have said many times I don't like it because it butchers to death his character and makes him into a damn monster now and just dumbs down his character.

yeah will I would like to know how on earth with organics,he doesn't have to replenish his webbing,because with organics,he would eventually have to run out of it and he would be exhausted from shooting all that webbing out of his body.thats an explanation I know many people I have spoken to over the years bring up as well and they didn't even bother to give an explanation for it in the film because they know there are so many flaws and holes with the organics. sm 2 is a joke of a film because that is so laughable that he loses his powers to shoot webbing because he gets depressed,then somehow he gets the webbing back because he gets angry? horrible screenwriting.

Again, you're being stupid. Peter is NOT a scientist, he's a college student, actually, he was a highschool student at the time. He was great in science class, but that doesn't make him a scientist! he's just a bright student! And for the last time! enough with the running out of organic webbing! It's like saying how can mr. fantastic stretch, or how can Wolverine get knives to come out of his fist! There shouldn't be an explanation for organics! And if you think about it, both organics and web shooters make no sense. because the web cartridges would run out in one shot. do you know how small those things are? now let's please end that discussion, and get back to the topic!

Pete is a scientist- a very gifted one since a very young age.

i cant picture mj being black cat, with all those red hair she has........

With a formule to turn her red hair into
white hair.

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Pete is a scientist- a very gifted one since a very young age.

Actually, scientists have Ph.Ds. Peter doesn't have a Ph.D. so he'd be more of a science student. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. my family's full of scientists. and yes, Peter is gifted, but if not even our world's most skillful scientists can figure out how to make webbing, I doubt any A class student could.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Actually, scientists have Ph.Ds. Peter doesn't have a Ph.D. so he'd be more of a science student. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. my family's full of scientists. and yes, Peter is gifted, but if not even our world's most skillful scientists can figure out how to make webbing, I doubt any A class student could.

true as always,you ignore my points I always bring up that counters your posts all the time.AGAIN,there have been MANY MANY cases over the years of teenage genius's creating a formula that no government agency or scientists have ever created so that point is mute and holds no water.He might as well be a scientist though because he is always at the top of his class.His professors have said to him before in the comics that they have never encountered in all their years of teaching a student as bright and gifted as Peter.Peter Parker is beyond a doubt a rare and gifted student who has that unique special gift to invent something that no other government agency or scientists can invent because again he is one of those rare teenage genius that have done those kinds of things throughout history.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Again, you're being stupid. Peter is NOT a scientist, he's a college student, actually, he was a highschool student at the time. He was great in science class, but that doesn't make him a scientist! he's just a bright student! And for the last time! enough with the running out of organic webbing! It's like saying how can mr. fantastic stretch, or how can Wolverine get knives to come out of his fist! There shouldn't be an explanation for organics! And if you think about it, both organics and web shooters make no sense. because the web cartridges would run out in one shot. do you know how small those things are? now let's please end that discussion, and get back to the topic!

Hey your the one that came on here attacking my opinion and decided to turn this into a discussion about organics.I merely came on and stated in my first post that at this point,they might as well have Mary jane become the black cat since they have done so many other stupid things in the first two films that were not loyal to the source material such as making mary janes character Much much more like Gwen Stacy and nothing at all like Mary Jane.This is a comicbook film so people know things dont have to be realistic because the whole thing of spiderman is unrealistic in the first place,how hard can that be to comprehend? you kept wanting to bring up faults with the mechs so since you insisted on that,I can point out that for every point you make against the mechs I can make as many points against the organics on why they are equally as senseless for the film.

You are being stupid in your last post because you keep saying that since I want things to be like the comics that thats the reason i dont like organics which is false.If you are going to make false statements that I dont like the movies because it wasnt in the comics,then to YOUR logic,you should have no problem with Mary jane becoming The Black Cat,after all,it didnt happen in the comics and since you dont mind things not being the way it was in the comics,then Mary Jane being the Black cat should be no problem for you. 🙄 and dont come back with that lame excuse that its not necessary because I have already addressed that in this post that there were several changes they made in these movies that were not necessary to do either.

That being said,since the topic here is Mary Jane being the Black cat,As I said in my original post,at this point they might as well make her the black cat.To the thread starter of this thread,good thread.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Hey your the one that came on here attacking my opinion and decided to turn this into a discussion about organics.I merely came on and stated in my first post that at this point,they might as well have Mary jane become the black cat since they have done so many other stupid things in the first two films that were not loyal to the source material such as making mary janes character Much much more like Gwen Stacy and nothing at all like Mary Jane.This is a comicbook film so people know things dont have to be realistic because the whole thing of spiderman is unrealistic in the first place,how hard can that be to comprehend? you kept wanting to bring up faults with the mechs so since you insisted on that,I can point out that for every point you make against the mechs I can make as many points against the organics on why they are equally as senseless for the film.

You are being stupid in your last post because you keep saying that since I want things to be like the comics that thats the reason i dont like organics which is false.If you are going to make false statements that I dont like the movies because it wasnt in the comics,then to YOUR logic,you should have no problem with Mary jane becoming The Black Cat,after all,it didnt happen in the comics and since you dont mind things not being the way it was in the comics,then Mary Jane being the Black cat should be no problem for you. 🙄 and dont come back with that lame excuse that its not necessary because I have already addressed that in this post that there were several changes they made in these movies that were not necessary to do either.

That being said,since the topic here is Mary Jane being the Black cat,As I said in my original post,at this point they might as well make her the black cat.To the thread starter of this thread,good thread.

Dude! you are really annoying! I had already posted on this thread before you got on here, okay! And Mary Jane being the Black Cat would be a problem because it is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like making the webbing organic! that wasn't giving a character someone else's identity. And I honestly don't know what your problem is with the movies. ALL superhero movies change everything completely to make it work for the big screen! I mean, think about it, would you honestly believe that those little web cartridges would be able to hold that much web fluid? Now don't get me wrong, it's all right in the comics, but in a movie, it wouldn't be right. plus if people watched the movie and saw how he made his own webbing, and he has so many money problems, people are goimg to question that! Peter could sell something like that and then he wouldn't have money problems! That's what people would be thinking! And, honestly, Stan Lee helped out with the movie, and if he approved of organics, why can't you? The movie doesn't revolve around peter's webbing! It's not big! It's probably the only thing they really did change completely. Now changing MJ into the Black Cat is a bad idea. MJ is a major character, and shouldn't be changed completely.

Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
Wow thats the most aggressive thing you have ever written on here. Very nice. 🙂

If they do have the black cat I would like to see her framed for the main bad guy's crime. Then spidey figures out she is innocent and they work together. 🙂

That's a good idea.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Dude! you are really annoying! I had already posted on this thread before you got on here, okay! And Mary Jane being the Black Cat would be a problem because it is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like making the webbing organic! that wasn't giving a character someone else's identity. And I honestly don't know what your problem is with the movies. ALL superhero movies change everything completely to make it work for the big screen! I mean, think about it, would you honestly believe that those little web cartridges would be able to hold that much web fluid? Now don't get me wrong, it's all right in the comics, but in a movie, it wouldn't be right. plus if people watched the movie and saw how he made his own webbing, and he has so many money problems, people are goimg to question that! Peter could sell something like that and then he wouldn't have money problems! That's what people would be thinking! And, honestly, Stan Lee helped out with the movie, and if he approved of organics, why can't you? The movie doesn't revolve around peter's webbing! It's not big! It's probably the only thing they really did change completely. Now changing MJ into the Black Cat is a bad idea. MJ is a major character, and shouldn't be changed completely.

Hear Hear!

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Dude! you are really annoying! I had already posted on this thread before you got on here, okay! And Mary Jane being the Black Cat would be a problem because it is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like making the webbing organic! that wasn't giving a character someone else's identity. And I honestly don't know what your problem is with the movies. ALL superhero movies change everything completely to make it work for the big screen! I mean, think about it, would you honestly believe that those little web cartridges would be able to hold that much web fluid? Now don't get me wrong, it's all right in the comics, but in a movie, it wouldn't be right. plus if people watched the movie and saw how he made his own webbing, and he has so many money problems, people are goimg to question that! Peter could sell something like that and then he wouldn't have money problems! That's what people would be thinking! And, honestly, Stan Lee helped out with the movie, and if he approved of organics, why can't you? The movie doesn't revolve around peter's webbing! It's not big! It's probably the only thing they really did change completely. Now changing MJ into the Black Cat is a bad idea. MJ is a major character, and shouldn't be changed completely.

Look I came on here and said at this point might as well have mary jane be the black cat since they have screwed up the movies with other stupid and unnessary changes,you came on and attacked me for it because you dont agree with it.yes all superhero movies change things for movies,I dont hate every superhero movie made,some changes are okay just as long as they are reasonable and the ones made in these films were NOT reasonable. why do you keep harping on that issue,I brought up how it was stupid to change mary janes character to make her much more like gwen stacy and you want to ignore that and keep going on about the organics.You have a real bad memory problem obviosuly because i have addressed those issues of yours countless of times before in the past,thats your problem if you cant remember the answers I gave you or keep giving you and you blatanly ignore .I am certainly not going to waste my time with you anymore since everything I tell you just goes through one ear and out the other and you dont remember my answers I give you.

again several changes they made in the two movies were bad ideas,so might as well at this point mj the black cat.again you make no sense,you say you dont care about the changes they made from the comics to the movies, that they didnt need to make,so according to you then,black cat being mj should not be an issue with you,the other changes they made were bad ideas and you went along with it,so you should have no problem with mj being the black cat.at this point black cat being mj would not be a bad thing since these movies have not been loyal to the comicbook.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Look I came on here and said at this point might as well have mary jane be the black cat since they have screwed up the movies with other stupid and unnessary changes,you came on and attacked me for it because you dont agree with it.yes all superhero movies change things for movies,I dont hate every superhero movie made,some changes are okay just as long as they are reasonable and the ones made in these films were NOT reasonable. why do you keep harping on that issue,I brought up how it was stupid to change mary janes character to make her much more like gwen stacy and you want to ignore that and keep going on about the organics.You have a real bad memory problem obviosuly because i have addressed those issues of yours countless of times before in the past,thats your problem if you cant remember the answers I gave you or keep giving you and you blatanly ignore .I am certainly not going to waste my time with you anymore since everything I tell you just goes through one ear and out the other and you dont remember my answers I give you.

again several changes they made in the two movies were bad ideas,so might as well at this point mj the black cat.again you make no sense,you say you dont care about the changes they made from the comics to the movies, that they didnt need to make,so according to you then,black cat being mj should not be an issue with you,the other changes they made were bad ideas and you went along with it,so you should have no problem with mj being the black cat.at this point black cat being mj would not be a bad thing since these movies have not been loyal to the comicbook.

Listen I was only giving you my opinion. And my opinion is that I think you're wrong. And just because MJ's a bit like Gwen Stacy doen't mean she isn't anything like MJ. And the reason it seems like I have a bad memory problem is because I just don't agree with you! I don't make it a habit to remember stuff I disagree with! and for heaven's sake I've posted more than 800 posts since I first signed on. I can't go remembering all the posts! But I really have an excellent memory. I can remember things from when I was two! so don't go telling me I have a bad memory problem! And if you didn't notice, half the World seems to disagree with you that Spider-Man's a bad movie, because so many people gave it great ratings. And I don't mean just the critics.

Originally posted by Saberstylemasta
Hear Hear!

Thanks for the support, Saberstylemasta. 🙂

Rupert are you aware that you wasted all that time talking that I didnt read a word of what you said or plan to in the future? you childlishly came on and attacked me for my opinion about mary jane being the black cat and I wont waste my time anymore with someone that has a memory problem who cant remember the answers I have given that person countless of times before and just keeps asking the same damn questions over and over again that the answers were given to you on this thread and countless of other times in the past as well and ignores my points I bring up that counters yours.Until you can learn how to remember things,then you not worth the effort or my time.

Who knows. The movie is so different, that is one of those SUPER SPIDERS that just running around, The Super Spider will Bite a Black cat, then the Cat will Bite MJ and MJ will turn into the Black cat, and her hair will become white. Why not, the movie could get away with it, Some people wont even know who the black cat is, so they use MJ.

This is to proove how crazy things could happen. They could do this, and get away with it.
I would say some of the other thing people are saying, but some one, is not listening on how it could happen, and just repeat the question. You know who you are.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Rupert are you aware that you wasted all that time talking that I didnt read a word of what you said or plan to in the future? you childlishly came on and attacked me for my opinion about mary jane being the black cat and I wont waste my time anymore with someone that has a memory problem who cant remember the answers I have given that person countless of times before and just keeps asking the same damn questions over and over again that the answers were given to you on this thread and countless of other times in the past as well and ignores my points I bring up that counters yours.Until you can learn how to remember things,then you not worth the effort or my time.

Well, guess what, I've been doing the same thing you've been doing, and for the last time, I wasn't attacking you. I'm allowed to give my opinion. And if you don't want to waste your time, anymore, then why did you answer back in the first place!? And I never ASKED a question. I was stating my thoughts on it. Your problem is that you don't know the difference between a question and a thought. the only question I really asked was what your problem was. And stop saying I can't remember things, because that is not true. I just feel the same way about you, the way you feel about me, as in I'm getting really annoyed with you. plus I don't think you even listen to me correctly, that's why I repeat my answers. And I'm getting tired of doing so, because you just don't seem to get the idea that the movies might change a few things, but absolutely no secret identities have been changed. and it would be a bad idea to do so! but you don't seem to pay attention to that fact, because your too stubborn to believe that they don't change EVERYTHING in the movie.

And as I just said, if you really don't want to continue listening to me, then why even reply to my banter!? confused1

I mean I wanted to stop talking about it a few posts ago, but instead of deciding to do what I said with dropping the subject, you deliberately continued to argue with me about it. so it seems to me that you want to continue arguing with me, even though we both know that we aren't going to change our mind about.

It seems to me that you're being just as bad as me with the attacking, so don't go telling me that your mister perfect.

now if you could just let us get back to the subject at hand, and if you could stop pushing my frustration with you, that would be nice. so please don't push it any further than it already is. I've had enough of this bickering.