Blade: Super-Hero or Super-Zero?

Originally posted by Stormy_Day
I dont have to explain myself and you dont have to respect my opinion.I just dont think blade should be considered a superhero.I know what im talking about but dont have the time to type it out like you 😉

You should take the time to explain yourself, if you want your opinion to mean anything to anyone. Respect has nothing to do with it. All I want is a logical explanation. Not just an empty opinion, but you've made it abundantly clear your incapable of elaboration, so that's the end of that, and once again, we'll just agree to disagree and understand that you have wasted my time.

I don't know why you bother arguing points in a movie you haven't seen in years, mucking up the most basic of plot points, being Blade HATING vampires.

Originally posted by Vengeance
k blad eis no super hero or even hero becuase to be a hero u need to be reconized and no one knows he's alive or ever was alive. and realy i think batman and punisher are more hero becuase they dont have super strengh like blade and all that crap thats a hero, not some mut (mix between vamp and human). oh and i pray he will die in the third it would be a fitting end to a low budget so called "hero".

Ever heard the term "unsung heroes"? A good example are the people that work at the electric company. Without them, we have no electricity. Farmers? They put food on billions of peoples tables, literally, but go unseen and unrecognized every single day. They are heroes, just the same.

How the hell is "Punisher" a hero? He doesn't help anyone but himself, and his whole schtick is working out a personal vendetta, revenge.

Batman, sure. He's a classic super hero, but today, there's alot more to constitute the levels of heroism other than being in the spotlight, and helping people.

Blade has no super human strength, to be honest, other than maybe enhanced fighting skills of some sort? He's weaker than most so called super heroes, for the sheer fact that he has to take a serum just to sustain himself every single day.

Besides, what does "Blade" being "low budget" have to do with anything? Goes to show the franchise doesn't need gobs of CGI to make their character interesting.

Originally posted by Stormy_Day
Coudlnt have said it better myself 😉

In retrospect, I think you're both about on the same level, intellectually.

Thats has it CA I dont like you disrespecting my so called "Itellectual ability" because you dont agree.Im not asking you to agree or even take a second look and my opinion I just posted it.So just stop trying to prove me wrong because it comes very clear that me and you have totally different views on movies.

I dont think Blade was ever intended to be a super-hero,but HEY whatever floats your boat.

Originally posted by Stormy_Day
Thats has it CA I dont like you disrespecting my so called "Itellectual ability" because you dont agree.Im not asking you to agree or even take a second look and my opinion I just posted it.So just stop trying to prove me wrong because it comes very clear that me and you have totally different views on movies.

I dont think Blade was ever intended to be a super-hero,but HEY whatever floats your boat.

So, you thought I was calling you two stupid? I always admired both of your levels of tenacity. But, look at it however you want. 😄

Again, you're thinking I am saying things, sheerly because I disagree, which is just even more proof of your backwards reasoning.

Also, I'm not trying to prove you wrong. How can an opinion be proven wrong, anyway? Correct, it can't be, and that's not what I was trying to do. Like I said, you either can't elaborate, or you won't elaborate on a simple opinion. You got defensive instead. That's on you.

It's not that our views on movies are different, it just that you have yet to find yours. Your "view", as witnessed here, isn't a view, it's an opinion on a singular character which differs from mine. You haven't got anything to support your opinion to rival mine, and I have plenty of support, that is based in all other comic book movies, which the Blade franchise follows almost to a T.

"Blade" has too much in common with all the other comic book movies to not be considered a "super hero" franchise.

You're absolutely right in one aspect, as he never was intended to be a super hero. However, he is one, simply because he has more in common with all the other super heroes and their franchises, than not.

We through yet? 😕

No.

Dont act like you where giving me a compliment because I know you werent.I dont give my reviews on this forum mostly because most of the time im to lazy to do research and take time to write a review so I basically stick to 1 to 2 paragraph opinions and theorys/thoughts.You probaly think less of me and me thoughts on movie because im like half your age but get over it im a good critic and debater to when I want to be.

The latter, but i dont care much anyway really.

He's a hero, and he has extraordinary powers 🤨

He's not a super hero really. Just a normal "hero"

su·per·he·ro

A figure, especially in a comic strip or cartoon, endowed with superhuman powers and usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime.

There's the definition of superhero. Since Blade does have superhuman powers, and fights evil; by definition, he is indeed a superhero. Not to mention the fact that he kicks absolute ass. Case closed. (I hope)

Originally posted by BackFire
He's not a super hero really. Just a normal "hero"

Exactly.

Like theres a difference between a Fire Fighter and Spider-Man 😬

Are you implying there isn't a difference between Spider-Man and a firefighter, or there is?

Besides, what's the difference, both are heroes?

Blade is no different than Spider Man in his movies. Both are from comic books, human, both have some sort of genetic enhancement, an arch nemesis, a costume, catchphrases, save their respective cities, have weaknesses, a love interest, and are both prone to losing their powers!

There ya have it. He's a ****ing super hero.

Majority rules.

Im saying theres a difference between one of kind of hero and another kind.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Ever heard the term "unsung heroes"? A good example are the people that work at the electric company. Without them, we have no electricity. Farmers? They put food on billions of peoples tables, literally, but go unseen and unrecognized every single day. They are heroes, just the same.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
How the hell is "Punisher" a hero? He doesn't help anyone but himself, and his whole schtick is working out a personal vendetta, revenge.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
In retrospect, I think you're both about on the same level, intellectually.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
There ya have it. He's a ****ing super hero.

Majority rules.

super zero

Originally posted by Stormy_Day
Im saying theres a difference between one of kind of hero and another kind.

Super heroes don't exist in real life, so they are basically one and the same. Still no real point in what you said.

Originally posted by Vengeance
i dont think that plp doing there jobs make them heros, u hear the term "career choice". like farmers are cool but just becuase they do what they wanted doesn't realy make them a hero. maybe if they went out of there way to do it becuase we had a shortage maybe.

and punisher did help those plp in the apartment, plus he said at the end that he would help those who couldn't help them selves. so he is about to go out of his way to help plp hey look at that huh?.

lol when u dont agree with plp you always say there stupid just face it we have diff opions just mine had facts to back it up were u go off to say were stupid and tease stormy's post's instead of making points your self.

If there weren't any farmers, there would be shortages. A hero is defined as one who is admired for his achievements and noble qualities. If feeding the world isn't an achievement, then I don't know what is.
Hero doesn't necessarily mean someone who saves a shitload of people from peril, not even by definition.

"Career choice" means nothing, either. Farmers chose to be farmers, super heroes choose to save the world. What's your point? Is not that either were born to do what they set out to do each and every day.

The "Punisher" character isn't a super hero. He's human, for one, and all he has is guns and a bad attitude. He's no more a super hero than I am.

How is it that those people are living in such a low rent community, when that wheelchaired kid was able to afford a mechanized wheelchair, as well as all that high tech, expensive gadgetry? Just something to think about, since they are so poor. By giving them money, that's not saving the community, it's saving a 3 lazy ass bums who CAN help themselves, but apparently don't want to. Bad, bad example.

Lastly, not once did I say anyone was stupid. I do however liken the intellectual level of his to yours, all talk and no action. I understand we have differing opnions, but neither of you provided any of these facts that you claim to have shared, and I did, more than a sufficient amount.

I've put both of you in your places numerous times, and I don't ever see an end in sight. I don't know why you even bother "debating" with me, when it's so one sided.

Originally posted by Vengeance
oh and there u have it majority blows lol. what majority like realy how many plp even post here yet like 5 lol slow down cd.

14 people have actually participated in the poll itself, 9 of which agree with me, chief. That's 66%, and the majority of the thread. Given the evidence I have provided, which beyond a shadow of a doubt lends itself to believing he is indeed a superhero, I seem to be in the right here, and nobody has anything to refute it.

Well, other than opinions, which people like to mistaken for fact.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Super heroes don't exist in real life, so they are basically one and the same. Still no real point in what you said.

If there weren't any farmers, there would be shortages. A hero is defined as one who is admired for his achievements and noble qualities. If feeding the world isn't an achievement, then I don't know what is.
Hero doesn't necessarily mean someone who saves a shitload of people from peril, not even by definition.

"Career choice" means nothing, either. Farmers chose to be farmers, super heroes choose to save the world. What's your point? Is not that either were born to do what they set out to do each and every day.

The "Punisher" character isn't a super hero. He's human, for one, and all he has is guns and a bad attitude. He's no more a super hero than I am.

How is it that those people are living in such a low rent community, when that wheelchaired kid was able to afford a mechanized wheelchair, as well as all that high tech, expensive gadgetry? Just something to think about, since they are so poor. By giving them money, that's not saving the community, it's saving a 3 lazy ass bums who CAN help themselves, but apparently don't want to. Bad, bad example.

Lastly, not once did I say anyone was stupid. I do however liken the intellectual level of his to yours, all talk and no action. I understand we have differing opnions, but neither of you provided any of these facts that you claim to have shared, and I did, more than a sufficient amount.

I've put both of you in your places numerous times, and I don't ever see an end in sight. I don't know why you even bother "debating" with me, when it's so one sided.

14 people have actually participated in the poll itself, 9 of which agree with me, chief. That's 66%, and the majority of the thread. Given the evidence I have provided, which beyond a shadow of a doubt lends itself to believing he is indeed a superhero, I seem to be in the right here, and nobody has anything to refute it.

Well, other than opinions, which people like to mistaken for fact.

Second punisher doesn't have to have super powers to be a super hero. like realy neither does bat man but he's also a super hero. i think he is called a super hero becuase he goes beoned what other hero's go with his guns and such. like who goes all out like he did in the movie. plus he does only use guns but blade ushally only uses swords.

Third saying not to debate with you becuas eits one sided is yet onther way of saying im inferior to u once again. i hate to say but i htink we both make good points and show our opions in good ways but in no time do i see your side of this debate beating mine.

Originally posted by Vengeance
lol ok man. well i say that plp choicing to do something they love doesn't make them a hero even if they are a farmer. i n othey do help but not in a hero way, thats like saying that if someone love to sit down and he does it that makes him a hero lol.

Second punisher doesn't have to have super powers to be a super hero. like realy neither does bat man but he's also a super hero. i think he is called a super hero becuase he goes beoned what other hero's go with his guns and such. like who goes all out like he did in the movie. plus he does only use guns but blade ushally only uses swords.

Third saying not to debate with you becuas eits one sided is yet onther way of saying im inferior to u once again. i hate to say but i htink we both make good points and show our opions in good ways but in no time do i see your side of this debate beating mine.

So, if I chose to be a fireman, and saved peoples lives day in and day out, I'm not a hero, according to you?

Farmers, for example, provide a service that not everyone is skilled or qualified to do day in and day out. People thay provide food for the entire nation are heroes to me. If not to you, then why don't you go cultivate your own crops?

As for the "Punisher" not needing super powers to be considered a "super hero", did you miss the entire definition of what constitutes a such a title?

Originally posted by Anywien
su·per·he·ro

A figure, especially in a comic strip or cartoon, endowed with superhuman powers and usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime.

Keyword there being and. Frank Castle is human. Nothing more. "Batman" is only considered a "super hero" by the general public, because he and Superman were novelty crimefighters when the phrase was coined, being the late 40's. In essence, he isn't one.

This part..I totally didn't comprehend:

i think he is called a super hero becuase he goes beoned what other hero's go with his guns and such. like who goes all out like he did in the movie. plus he does only use guns but blade ushally only uses swords.

"The Punisher" does LESS than most "super heroes", in fact. In the movie, all he did was kill people that killed his family. He'll promise to kill others that hurt other people, but how is that being a hero to anyone? He's a hitman who works for free, an outlaw. Weapondry has absolutely nothing to do with being a "super hero", it's all about what interesting or unique abilities you were born with. Blade, aside from using a sword, uses sai, a glave, and a wide, wide assortment of handguns. Not that it matters.

Lastly, while I am no better than anyone on this board, I do feel that I am the better debater between us. I usually have plenty of valid points, and you just like to throw out your opinions and hope they stick, with no real backing. I've got points on top of points, factual, honest to god points that you could go look up on the internet and find.

I'm sorry if you think I am bragging, or think I have some sort of superiority complex or what have you, but I've been doing this for years on numerous Star Wars and movie boards, and I only get better at making myself heard.

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
14 people have actually participated in the poll itself, 9 of which agree with me, chief. That's 66%, and the majority of the thread. Given the evidence I have provided, which beyond a shadow of a doubt lends itself to believing he is indeed a superhero, I seem to be in the right here, and nobody has anything to refute it.

Well, other than opinions, which people like to mistaken for fact.

What is there like more than twenty thousand people registered at KMC and billions living in the world today and you say Majority Rules when people says hes a hero ? "🤨 😛

Originally posted by Vengeance
lol when u dont agree with plp you always say there stupid just face it we have diff opions just mine had facts to back it up were u go off to say were stupid and tease stormy's post's instead of making points your self.

So true...and he always trys to twist my words and try to make me sound like im saying one thing when hes tottaly missing the point. 😬

Originally posted by Stormy_Day
What is there like more than twenty thousand people registered at KMC and billions living in the world today and you say Majority Rules when people says hes a hero ? "🤨 😛

So true...and he always trys to twist my words and try to make me sound like im saying one thing when hes tottaly missing the point. 😬

38,000 over the course of about 4 years, the most being about 400 people on at one given time, and not all of them are going to visit this thread.

You unfamiliar with majority rules? How do you think we elect a President? Drawing straws? Paper, Rock, Scissors? If the majority of the people consider his franchise that of a "super heroes", then it is, contrary to one singular belief that is vastly outnumbered. It's the number of votes that matter, not the number of people who don't vote.

Stormy, to miss a point you have to make one, tough guy. And by point, I mean something verifiable, not a really strong opinion or personal conviction, follow up with a 😬

Poor Cinemaddiction always misses the point closedeyes