So, will Anakin become a Jedi in EIII ??

Mace is higher than Yoda
Mace is the one leading the council, not Yoda, it's said somewhere don't recall where though

well get on it man! we demand proof!

McC said it 😛

Yoda is the most powerful of all the Jedi. This is made clear when Palpatine butters Anakin up in the Chancellor's office in Episode II.

"I forsee you becoming the most powerful of all the Jedi, even more powerful than Master Yoda."

Anakin to Padme about OB1:
"He's as wise as master...
and as powerful as master ... "

which name is on which place again? 😕

What? Mace is higher than Yoda? Hmmmm....first I hear about that.

it's only cause they said it, you can't see it

erm Im not buying this one Yers, yoda ran the show me thinks

well, I'll try and find the source tomas

thats me! I want proof! ✅

not in the databanks, pretty sure it was somewhere written

Originally posted by cornponious
Here's why I'm asking:

I have spent the last 3 days watching Episodes IV, V, and VI. I have a bit of a problem. In ANH, when Obi-Wan and Vader square off at the Death Star, Vader says, "When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the Master."

Ok, this would signify that when he and Obi parted ways (in whichever way that will be), Anakin had NOT become a Jedi (he was a learner when he left). I also have a problem with that word, "left." Did Anakin [b]leave Obi-Wan, or did he fall into the lava as we have heard? But I digress...

Now, in ROTJ, after Luke kicks his fathers ass and hands him his right hand on a silver platter, he says to the emperor, "You've failed, your Highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

And let's not forget that in ANH, when Luke and Obi-Wan are at Obi's hut, Obi-Wan says, "I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father."

These quotes are COMPLETELY contradictory. Obviously Anakin didn't become a Jedi before parting with Obi-Wan, so why did Luke and Obi-Wan say that his father was a Jedi? Anakin became a Sith, not a Jedi.

So, will Anakin be a Jedi in EIII? If so, this will add even more problems to the story in general. What are your thoughts?

corn [/B]

NO, he will become a sith.

by the way, in the third movie he has long hair (UGLY), and in the last he is bald. where did he put all of the lost hair. (eat it?).

SITH SITH SITH SITH SITH SITH SITH...ect.

Gee I dont know, but I read somewhere that hot lava can burn off your hair. And thats not what he was asking.

i really want to prove lucas correct and consistant,
but another line from ep4 just popped in my head:

"A young jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights"

now, we know that part of this statement was a lie...i mean...a certain point of view...but it does support the whole claim of inconsistancy.
in fact, you can totally disregard the PT and eps 5&6 and it is STILL inconsistant, since in the same conversation, ben says "I was once a JEDI KNIGHT the same as your father"

now, its known that when lucas finished ep4, he still had not decided that vader was luke's father, and that darth vader DID kill his father...so where i'm going with this is:
will lucas decide to edit ep4 to make it consistant? will he dare erase alec guinness' words from the film? god i really hope not.

True. If Anakin was a pupil of Kenobi's UNTIL he turned to evil, he could not have become a Jedi.

corn

😄

I don't care about small little lines of inconsistancy, as long as GL provides me with another great SW movie I'd be happy with that. ✅

Yeah, i'd say this is going nowhere, GL pretty much makes it up as he goes along so there is bound to be little things that don't seem to fit.

I don't think the line said by Vadar to Obi-wan indicates any inconsistancy, at least the way i see it and the way its worded, but the line mentioned above definately seems like a hole.

Originally posted by PVS
i really want to prove lucas correct and consistant,
but another line from ep4 just popped in my head:

"A young jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights"

now, we know that part of this statement was a lie...i mean...a certain point of view...but it does support the whole claim of inconsistancy.
in fact, you can totally disregard the PT and eps 5&6 and it is STILL inconsistant, since in the same conversation, ben says "I was once a JEDI KNIGHT the same as your father"

now, its known that when lucas finished ep4, he still had not decided that vader was luke's father, and that darth vader DID kill his father...so where i'm going with this is:
will lucas decide to edit ep4 to make it consistant? will he dare erase alec guinness' words from the film? god i really hope not.

for the second phrase, as said above, Anakin was a jedi knight... he was one in AOTC as he was a padawan learner in the jedi knight order... and in EpIII he will be a Jedi Knight (according to Pablo)

so there is absolutley NO reason to edit EpIV in ANY way

"OB1 teached Anakin but when he went dark (which he technically already did in AOTC with the tuskens) he stopped being Anakin and became Vader, and a Jedi doesn't teach a darkie of course..."

gotta disagree there.
since he later returned to his senses, he had not turned to evil. to "turn to evil" suggests a permanence. face it, its a gaping hole. believe me, i hate it just as much as you do. it makes me wish i never took part in this thread. sometimes ignorance really is bliss 😉

To bad GL didnt sit and write them all in the beggining huh. We wouldnt have this debate, we wouldnt have the Kiss of Insest. The word sith would be as popular as the word Jedi is today Ect.....