I posted about that right after it happened in the Superman respect thread, later someone brought the scans.. Avy of Validus I believe.
Superman can emit any frequency. That's how he talks to Aliens and stuff, since he can speak most languages in the universe.
I don't know if you noticed it in Crisis, but E2 Superman screamed and crumbled a city. Making me believe Kal could do the same, since they were portrayed as equals.
Similarly with Supergirl whisling to counteract siezmic vibrations.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Supes is a garbage character. They ruined him.
What is the point in reading his books?
Whatever he goes up against, he just reaches out, gets the powers he needs and wins.
Terrible.
I fail to see what makes Superman SOOOO terrible when Thor and Silver Surfer can do what ever the hell they can dream up? A powerful Character doesn't make them terrible. And it's not like he doesn't evolve. It's even in the character's history. WHen he was a teenager, he couldn't fly and wasn't nearly as strong as he is as a man. It would stand to reason that he would get more powers as he aged. Or he would get stale.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I fail to see what makes Superman SOOOO terrible when Thor and Silver Surfer can do what ever the hell they can dream up? A powerful Character doesn't make them terrible. And it's not like he doesn't evolve. It's even in the character's history. WHen he was a teenager, he couldn't fly and wasn't nearly as strong as he is as a man. It would stand to reason that he would get more powers as he aged. Or he would get stale.
The difference is that DC totally ignores any semblance of "logic" or science with this character.
They don't even try to make it beleivable.
Holding a black hole in his hand. That is just the silliest thing ever. Ever.
If he is made of matter, it does not happen.
If he is made of solar energy, it does not happen.
They constantly rewrite him to be able to do whatever the lates 'tard-writer wants him to do.
Awful. On the same level as X-men or Hulk.
At least Thor and Surfer are a little more quality.
Put it this way: the crazier the feats, the more rediculous the character.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wow, dude. You're better than this. At least debate with me.I believe Gladiator would defeat Superman. Prove me wrong.
I don't need to be better than that. Superman's feats speak for themselves.
-Gladiator can rip apart stars?
Superman turned the endless wheels of Maggedon which is = to moving an entire solar system. 😐
-Gladiator can fly 100 times the speed of light?
Superman flew Darkseid to the sun in a couple of seconds, when it takes light 8 minutes to get there. Superman also flew so fast that it created a boom tube in the time dimension thus he instantly travelled. Instant travel beats Gladiator. And Gladiator doesn't speed blitz like Superman does. That's a huge disadvantage right there.
The problem with the two things I listed for Gladiator up above is that the MAJORITY of the time, he's pathetic. Wolverine stalemated him for 6 days straight, Colossus matched him physically, Hulk punked the sh*t out of him, he admitted Thor was way too much for him, etc..
Not to mention, Gladiator doesn't have the "extra" powers that Superman has.
-T-Vo anyone?
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo23kw.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo31hz.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torquasmvo4po.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed6gj.jpg
http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo8tc.jpg
-Apparently Superman can absorb people's bio-energy and make himself stronger.
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2007p20ne7.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2007p21pt6.jpg
Sonic attacks that can destroy cities, invisibility, intangibility, etc. etc.
So tell me why Gladiator wins again?
Originally posted by batdude123
I don't need to be better than that. Superman's feats speak for themselves.-Gladiator can rip apart stars?
Superman turned the endless wheels of Maggedon which is = to moving an entire solar system. 😐
-Gladiator can fly 100 times the speed of light?
Superman flew Darkseid to the sun in a couple of seconds, when it takes light 8 minutes to get there. Superman also flew so fast that it created a boom tube in the time dimension thus he instantly travelled. Instant travel beats Gladiator. And Gladiator doesn't speed blitz like Superman does. That's a huge disadvantage right there.
The problem with the two things I listed for Gladiator up above is that the MAJORITY of the time, he's pathetic. Wolverine stalemated him for 6 days straight, Colossus matched him physically, Hulk punked the sh*t out of him, he admitted Thor was way too much for him, etc..
Not to mention, Gladiator doesn't have the "extra" powers that Superman has.
-T-Vo anyone?
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo23kw.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo31hz.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torquasmvo4po.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speed6gj.jpg
http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vo8tc.jpg-Apparently Superman can absorb people's bio-energy and make himself stronger.
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2007p20ne7.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvol2007p21pt6.jpgSonic attacks that can destroy cities, invisibility, intangibility, etc. etc.
So tell me why Gladiator wins again?
arent some of those pre-chrisis feats?
im sure im wrong though
powerman is full of toony feats
moving a solar system?
i dont know what to make of that
(this is in no way directed at you, just my perpetual superman confusion)
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If somebody wanted to rip apart a star where would be a good place to start?
Yeah, like,
Half of supermans feats just dont make sense. He ripped a star apart, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???
it just doesnt make SENSE.
Does anyone else have this problem with supermans "high end" feats?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555Superman has never ripped a star apart. And besides this is comics so don't apply real science. Once we start doing that then................
Yeah, like,Half of supermans feats just dont make sense. He ripped a star apart, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???
it just doesnt make SENSE.
Does anyone else have this problem with supermans "high end" feats?