Superman vs Gladiator.

Started by Blue Area Vet52 pages

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He did it for 5 days not one time.

Can you bench press a cardboard box for 5 says? I assume that if you have the stamina you could, so If you could bench press a cardboard box for five days, you think you don't have enough strength to destroy said box?

So if you can bench press and object for five days with barely any perspiration and no food to regain energy, I am sure you have enough strength to destroy that object.

How much do you weight? lets say 180 lbs, lets say that We look for someone who can bench press [b]you for 5 days straight with out a rest. After he lifted you for 5 days straight, go in front of him, piss him off and I am sure he has enough strength to fuq you up.

So, Do you think that someone who can bench press you for 5 straight days cannot destroy you?

I agree with you that bench pressing is not the same as striking.

If I can bench press an object only ONCE, Yes you are correct, I don't have the strength to do it, but if I Bench press the same object for 5 days straight and you think I don't have the strength to do it, you are completely and utterly wrong.

Also see above response

Superman easily split that moon on Jupiter and damaged the moon with the shock wave of his punch. Plus He has that example of almost knocking the moon out of it's orbit while poisoned by K, moving a celestial out of it's orbital trench >>>> destroying a celestial object, It requires more force, if you don't believe me ask the asteroid belt, in our solar system.

Destroying celestial objects in the manner Superman has done and denying it, it will be like you telling me that I can cut a piece of butter with a knife but the same knife cannot cut a larger piece of butter?

Now, think about this

You can bench press a planet for 5 days straight with no rest, you are just pushing that planet up and down for five days.

One day, you decide to punch that planet but you only break a mountain.

So the premises are

You can bench press earth for five days, not one time, not one minute, not one hour, not one day, but FIVE days with out difficult
You produce mountain leveling punches

What logical conclusion We can get out of it?

Conclusion 1

You are only capable of mountain leveling punches, but you can lift a planet for days straight with out effort, therefore you can only punch with mountain leveling punches, no matter how hard you hit and no matter how strong you are.

Conclusion 2

You can bench press a planet for five days, but you decide to hit just hard enough to level a mountain because you might destroy the planet you are trying to protect, therefore you can hit harder than that.

So that's it, pick the conclusion it makes sense to you, though I think anyone can see what is the most logical conclusion, because one of them does not makes sense. [/B]

Respectfully, you are getting WAY too caught up into the 5 days. NO HUMAN BEING could bench anything for 5 days straight, so that's where the real world comparisions end. Nothing else matters after that because there is no real world equivalent. Even if one could manage to move their arms up and down for 5 days nonstop, which they couldn't, they would have lifted nothing. If Superman was to lift the equivalent of nothing for three days, then the feat becomes completely unimpressive in terms of a strength showing. I find it amazing that anyone could begin to take an obvious comic book super powered feat that had no other purpose but to be a feat and try derive some sort of meaning from it. Even in a comic book sense, Superman simply does not perform to the level of the strength feat, so how significant is it in the end?

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, it's not.

No, it's not.

That comparison is stupid.

It's all about the density. Replace the cream tart with a brick. You will be able to lift it as well, but will you be able to crush it? I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT.

The Earth is also not like a cream tart for Superman. Barely any planet is. Pre 52 Superman has FAILED to acomplish planetary level strength feats more often than he actually kinda managed to acomplish something.

Only New 52 Superman now has that one ridiculous Earth benchpress feat, which at this point should really be considered as major WIS = Writing Induced Stupity and that's what it is - it was simply a randomly thrown out feat without ANY purpose. Not even a plot purpose, therefore it can't be labled as a power establishment feat for Superman, since he failed to replicate it many times.

With a planetary level strength he should have been able to simply restrain Orion, or the dragon snake, or Captain Marvel or whoever he came across, but he hasn't and he most likely never will.

PIS on that part, you say? Well, that would mean that Orion, the Dragon Snake (hell what was that?) and Captain Marvel all have planetary level strength so that Superman can't take on them.
Otherwise Superman should do it, if he wants to end his fights quickly and not let innocents get hurt.

Face it, Superman's striking is terrible. Everyone, who understands comics and hell even the real world knows that.


No it's not.

Superman is more durable then Earth or a Planet, your fist is not more durable then a good brick. The matter which earth is consisted of is like a tart to him more or less. If I would smash two bricks against you head you would probably die. When I do it with two cakes you wouldn't be hurt, might be you would be dizzy or pass out and we would have a good laugh though.
Superman = Steel. Lifting a cake no prob for 5 days, breaking it as easy. The Brick comparision is nonsense.
http://i.imgur.com/CQJzZ.jpg

Superman did also quite fine, better then Sentry with his Hellcarrier 😉.

Bench pressing earth for 5 days is legit and fine, you are just jelly because Sentry, Hulk and Glads lack this superior strength feat.

Orion is a herald level being and was always on Supes level, the same is true for CM and Superman was holding back, as he himself stated. The Dragon snake was fron Krypton and this was shortly after superman lost a lot of energy because of the 5 day earthbenchpressing feat, he was just shortly near the sun and couldn't refill his solar reserves.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Respectfully, you are getting WAY too caught up into the 5 days. NO HUMAN BEING could bench anything for 5 days straight, so that's where the real world comparisions end. Nothing else matters after that, there is no real world equivalent.

I want him to see the scope of things, his argument forgets that the feat was performed for 5 days and is presented like it was only done once.

To compare this in human terms We will have to reduce 5 days for 5 hours or five minutes and see what object a human can bench press for 5 minutes and not even sweat and see if that same object cannot be destroyed with human force.

I say a piece of paper or a butter bar will suffice.

But yes I agree, no human could do anything like that for 5 days, not even if he is a MAN 😈

Originally posted by carver9
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Everyone and their grandma debunked that ft along with every other ft he's brought up.


Shut up seriously.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I want him to see the scope of things, his argument forgets that the feat was performed for 5 days and is presented like it was only done once.

To compare this in human terms We will have to reduce 5 days for 5 hours or five minutes and see what object a human can bench press for 5 minutes and not even sweat and see if that same object cannot be destroyed with human force.

I say a piece of paper or a butter bar will suffice.

But yes I agree, no human could do anything like that for 5 days, not even if he is a MAN 😈

Ha ha, correct. Just imagine what a woman couldn't do? 😂

Seriously, I'd love to see the Wonder Woman freaks' prediction on what type over comparible strength feat Wonder Woman could accomplish on that same machine. My guess is her guns would give way as they have done so many times in the past. Home girl needs to drink some Pantheon blessed milk.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No it's not.

Superman is more durable then Earth or a Planet, your fist is not more durable then a good brick. The matter which earth is consisted of is like a tart to him more or less. If I would smash two bricks against you head you would probably die. When I do it with two cakes you wouldn't be hurt, might be you would be dizzy or pass out and we would have a good laugh though.
Superman = Steel. Lifting a cake no prob for 5 days, breaking it as easy. The Brick comparision is nonsense.
http://i.imgur.com/CQJzZ.jpg

Superman did also quite fine, better then Sentry with his Hellcarrier 😉.

Bench pressing earth for 5 days is legit and fine, you are just jelly because Sentry, Hulk and Glads lack this superior strength feat.

Orion is a herald level being and was always on Supes level, the same is true for CM and Superman was holding back, as he himself stated. The Dragon snake was fron Krypton and this was shortly after superman lost a lot of energy because of the 5 day earthbenchpressing feat, he was just shortly near the sun and couldn't refill his solar reserves.

Believe me, NO Marvel fan is jealous of any of Superman's meaningless cheese stunts. We look as scenes like that and laugh our assess of and then look as posts like this and lose our voices laughing.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Believe me, NO Marvel fan is jealous of any of Superman's meaningless cheese stunts. We look as scenes like that and laugh our assess of and then look as posts like this and lose our voices laughing.

I know I'm not jealous...Hulk has better fts than that.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Can you bench press a cardboard box for 5 says? I assume that if you have the stamina you could, so If you could bench press a cardboard box for five days, you think you don't have enough strength to destroy said box?

Your entire post is based on that - on that MISCONCEPTION.
I completely understand where you're coming from, but you're making one big mistake:

The Earth to him CAN'T be viewed as a cream tart, a pinata, a cardboard box or whatsoever, because for that to be the case, he would have had to benchpress something without density / something hollow.

Therefore I told you to imagine you would be lifting a brick. A brick is much more dense, yet still small in size.
You treat the story like the Earth is small in size for Superman, but it's not. He has enough strength to benchpress something heavy, but so does a bodybuilder. It doesn't mean that the bodybuilder can punch through it though.

Density.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Your entire post is based on that - on that MISCONCEPTION.
I completely understand where you're coming from, but you're making one big mistake:

The Earth to him CAN'T be viewed as a cream tart, a pinata, a cardboard box or whatsoever, because for that to be the case, he would have had to benchpress something without density / something hollow.

Therefore I told you to imagine you would be lifting a brick. A brick is much more dense, yet still small in size.
You treat the story like the Earth is small in size for Superman, but it's not. He has enough strength to benchpress something heavy, but so does a bodybuilder. It doesn't mean that the bodybuilder can punch through it though.

Density.

That is because the iron weight plates that the bodybuilder benches is harder than his knuckles.

If he benched an equivalent weight, but it was made of cotton candy, he could punch through it.

Now we definitely know rock and earth isn't more durable than Superman's knuckles....

Originally posted by carver9
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Everyone and their grandma debunked that ft along with every other ft he's brought up.

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Originally posted by Enzeru
Your entire post is based on that - on that MISCONCEPTION.
I completely understand where you're coming from, but you're making one big mistake:

The Earth to him CAN'T be viewed as a cream tart, a pinata, a cardboard box or whatsoever, because for that to be the case, he would have had to benchpress something without density / something hollow.

Therefore I told you to imagine you would be lifting a brick. A brick is much more dense, yet still small in size.
You treat the story like the Earth is small in size for Superman, but it's not. He has enough strength to benchpress something heavy, but so does a bodybuilder. It doesn't mean that the bodybuilder can punch through it though.

Density.

Let me give you another example, that might make more sense to you.

What can YOU bench press for five minutes with out even causing stress to you.

Something YOU can bench press for five minutes that will barely make you only transpire a single drop of sweat, while food deprived.

So what object will be that?

Well that object to you, is what earth is to Superman in this feat.

I'm curious to read what object it might be.

and also consider this, so the object has less density than your fist

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That is because the iron weight plates that the bodybuilder benches is harder than his knuckles.

If he benched an equivalent weight, but it was made of cotton candy, he could punch through it.

Now we definitely know rock and earth isn't more durable than Superman's knuckles....

Originally posted by carver9
I know I'm not jealous...Hulk has better fts than that.

You mean Hulk didn't pose for the cameras while working some delusional fanboy spawned contraption?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You mean Hulk didn't pose for the cameras while working some delusional fanboy spawned contraption?

Lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Originally posted by Warlord
not to jump in the fight, but how is the mini black hole thing NOT a feat of strength?
Because of the small size and it being contained by more than superman. The damage output was not even effecting that small room they were in. On the other hand, gladiator contained and collasped a star and explosion that would have destroyed half a solar system in space.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Believe me, NO Marvel fan is jealous of any of Superman's meaningless cheese stunts. We look as scenes like that and laugh our assess of and then look as posts like this and lose our voices laughing.

You jell vin

Apparently "mid tier heralds" are capable of planetary feats like this:

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Let me give you another example, that might make more sense to you.

What can YOU bench press for five minutes with out even causing stress to you.

Something YOU can bench press for five minutes that will barely make you only transpire a single drop of sweat, while food deprived.

So what object will be that?

Well that object to you, is what earth is to Superman in this feat.

I'm curious to read what object it might be.

and also consider this, so the object has less density than your fist

I think what he is telling you is that if a weight lifter lifts 400lb of earth yet has tried and not come close to being able to destroy the piece of earth, his striking power is not too impressive. When hyperion held back those universes, and gladiator destroyed that planet, people ( well, certain people ) said it was a one time feat or tried to down size their feats, yet when superman benches from a machine, they glorify the feat as if its the greatest strength feat ever which it is not. Plenty characters have done far better. Dont get me wrong, its a great feat, but nowhere near the best.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Apparently "mid tier heralds" are capable of planetary feats like this:

Gladiator is a High Herald, one of the strongest Marvel characters. Very few Heralds can be shown to be able to destroy a planet with striking power like gladiator did.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You still on that mythical busting where you run away after posting a bunch of scans?

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I didn't run. I do kinda remember u disappearing for a little bit.