venom vs the lizard

lizard would own, he could like knock venom out with his tale and he is alot stronger but im not sure by how mutch, ne one know wut class he is???

and plus th lizard is alot smarter isnt he?, isnt he like a scientist

hes class 14 and Venom is class 12. strength isnt the only factor. when Connors can stay sane in the Lizard form without going beserk, hes got the brains and the brawn.

hes more durable than Venom, hes faster, hes smarter (in some cases i.e. the one i listed above), and hes got valuable weapons like mental control over all reptiles.

Originally posted by Manowar
and i figured someone like you would say something so here it is in layman's terms

[b]The Lizard's info: (on a scale from 1-7)

Intelligence: 5
Strength: 4
Speed: 2
Durability: 5
Fighting Skills: 2

Venom's info:

Intelligence: 2
Strength: 4
Speed: 2
Durability: 4
Fighting Skills: 2

and THATS where i got the averages

Venoms overall stats average at a 2 and the Lizard's is 3.167 [/B]

Originally posted by Mr_Famous
all this time i thought carnage could easily beat venom, like he said to venom in carnage unleashed (part 4 i think) "We can kick both your real and your cyber butt"....and i thought venom got beat up by carnage at the beginning of maximum carnage comics and the game (for snes)....and oh yeah- he also got beat up by carnage in the 1st spidey game that came out for psx

Well, no offense, but you thought wrong, lol. You haven't read Maximum Carnage then I take it? Venom stalks Carnage in Chapter 14 *Spider-Man Unlimited 2* and beats him senseless, knocking him around town as Carnage is fleeing for his life. Spider-Man finally stops Venom from killing Carnage. You need to read the books for this, not play video games. That is not the gauge with which you judge the question, it is created by the video game company to be challenging; and as Carnage is the bad guy, he's going to be tough to beat.

humph! well i suppose ur right then. 😮 Thanx for the enlightenment then. That comic was never offered on sale here but i think now im gonna have to order from those sites Mane and the others suggested.

It's not that good a saga, but it has its moments I guess. Basically the best parts are the first and last, Spider-Man Unlimited #1 and #2. And the issue where Venom says 'yeah yeah, you and Sinatra.' I love that line, I still use it.

this is off topic, but has ne one ever seen that crazy cartoon where spiderman is on another planet, and venom and carnage are there, but they are like way way way stronger and look more monster like?

The 90s cartoon? Yeah I saw it, it was pretty good. Much better than that MTV crap. Speaking of Venom though, he looks more monster-like depending on the artist. McFarlane *the original* drew him as a more muscular Spider-Man with teeth, but normal teeth. Then Larsen drew him with a two foot tongue with green drool and long fangs. Then Bagley drew him with long fangs but no tongue or drool. Then the Venom continuous series had different looks. I prefer Bagley's over all, but nowadays you have no idea what the hell he'll look like, lol.

Plus he's gone from black to blue to black again. Nobody seems to know how they want to draw Venom.

How strong is the Lizard? I know he is a class 14 but that does not say much because Venom is a class 12 but has been shown to be way stronger that that. What are some of the things the Lizard has done to show how strong he is.

erm...you do realise that Lizard lifts 12 tons, and venom lifts 25 so I wouldnt say lizard was stronger not at all, but lizard is more durbale depends who is more brutal. I'd prob have to go with lizard he just seems more agressive than venom.

Oh no i stand corrected venom can lift 11 tons where the hell did I read venny could lift 25 should find that out

Venom could lift more the 11. Never go by the bio's they are wrong many times. Venom has been shown to be alot stronger.

Venom should be about 25

venom takes this because his is spidey on roids...

i would like to say to all of you who claims that Lizard would beat Venom that there is something to keep in mind: Venom IS Spider-Man's most dangerous enemy. Venom is stronger and has superhuman reflexes, and smart as hell so he could beat Lizard better than Spider-Man can. The Only way Lizard could beat Venom is if he has a sonic gun or a flamethrower because that's what can really destroy Venom...

Actually, Scorpion is wearing the symbiote.

Anyway the original Venom, that means Eddie Brock, will trash Lizard because he is a true badass.

Originally posted by crazyspinz
lizard would own, he could like knock venom out with his tale and he is alot stronger but im not sure by how mutch, ne one know wut class he is???

and plus th lizard is alot smarter isnt he?, isnt he like a scientist

as the Lizard his brains kinda went down hill..usually but he'd beat Venom after a long hard battle.

Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
i would like to say to all of you who claims that Lizard would beat Venom that there is something to keep in mind: Venom IS Spider-Man's most dangerous enemy. Venom is stronger and has superhuman reflexes, and smart as hell so he could beat Lizard better than Spider-Man can. The Only way Lizard could beat Venom is if he has a sonic gun or a flamethrower because that's what can really destroy Venom...

Actually the lizard is stronger then venom, and the only way that Spiderman beats the lizard is because he out smarts him most of the time which i dont see venom doing. Not to mention the only reason venom is one of spidermans most dangerous villains is because he has the huge advantage of knowing who spiderman is and spidermans spider sence isnt trigered by venom so considering venom can change his appearance he could sneak up on spiderman any time he wanted and spiderman wouldnt see it coming. So its not like he is spidermans most dangerouse evenemy in terms of powers he just has alot of advantages over spiderman.