An Idea for enproving batman

Well I think it would suck if Batman would kill that is one thing he has ahead of the other Dc biggie Superman. I personnally don't think it would be any improvement if he kills it would just destroy an awesome Character, and correct me if I am wrong but did't he take a gun to go against the reaper in Millers year one (please tell me its Elseworld, oh pleaaaassseeee)
I think there have been a few Elseworlds were Batman killed, I think I remember the Nail for example. So sure your Detroit Batman sounds like a nice story (a little bit like thrillkiller maybe but anyway)

Oh and I think the other time when he came close to killing was during the Hush storyline when he thought the Joker killed hs friend (you know the doctor Thomas something)

Is DKR an elseworlds(ok that was really off topic) but is it? Cuz I heared The DKR Batman was the Silver Age or Earth One Batman

okay...I HATE the idea of 'improvng' batman.The guy is just PERFECT!!!

Originally posted by Gregory
The day Batman starts killing people is the day I stop reading Batman comics.

I agree, the reason the Batman is my favorite character is because of this conflict in him. He has a set of principles, it is the ONLY thing that seperates him from the criminals, but he is always walking the borderline. he is constantly fighting these villians keeping his integrity intact but that question is always there, should he become them in order to stop them.

Originally posted by wuTa
it would be damn impossible for batman to not cross the line at least a couple times

I completely agree but resisting that temptation is why he is a super hero

Dudez, I don't get why Batman can't kill. I mean, he should, to put it plain and simple. He is getting to soft for people like Two-Face or Mr. Zsaz or whatever he's called. He wears tightie whities over his pants. That is pathetic. At the least he should give up the tightie whities! They are just gay and stupid. Not that Bats is gay and stupid, it's just stupid that he of all people shouldn't kill. (Is DKR an elseworlds?) Well that's my case. And Robin shouldn't even exist, for only one reason, it makes Batman soft. And one more thing, Batman IS getting too soft for some readers, but like I said, at least give the Golden Age Batman his own series, like Batman Classic, or Golden Age Batman Returns. And one more thing, why doesn't Joker from the current Age(the insane one) go to the Golden Age(killing Batman) from now on and the non insane one can go to the current age cuz Batman could have plenty good battles with a non insane Joker(on a count he doesn't kill)

P.S. # 1 Bat-fan(in case you haven't guessed already)

If he killed he would not be a super hero because he has made a commitment NOT to kill. It would be a weakness in him if he ever gave in and killed and Batman is not weak.

I believe DKR is an elseworld.

I never said he was weak, I said that he's getting soft. For three reasons he should kill; 1. It would make an interesting storyline. 2. He needs to be feared more. And I don't mean the intimidation, I mean actual fear, (like, please don't kill me!) Batman 1989 is a perfect example of what Batman should be. Same with Batman Returns. Oh, and if you think Batman Forever never had Batman killing, it did. He killed Two-Face in that movie. So if yo liked that movie cuz he never killed, he did. The only movie he never killed in is Batman and Robin. And I have a question for any hardcore Bat-Fans, Why is there so many puzzleholics out there in Gotham, first it was Riddler, then it was Cluemaster, and who knows, there might be a new villain called the Gamester coming soon.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I never said he was weak, I said that he's getting soft. For three reasons he should kill; 1. It would make an interesting storyline. 2. He needs to be feared more. And I don't mean the intimidation, I mean actual fear, (like, please don't kill me!) Batman 1989 is a perfect example of what Batman should be. Same with Batman Returns. Oh, and if you think Batman Forever never had Batman killing, it did. He killed Two-Face in that movie. So if yo liked that movie cuz he never killed, he did. The only movie he never killed in is Batman and Robin. And I have a question for any hardcore Bat-Fans, Why is there so many puzzleholics out there in Gotham, first it was Riddler, then it was Cluemaster, and who knows, there might be a new villain called the Gamester coming soon.

No I never liked the Batman movies Tim Burton or otherwise, as far as a more interesting storyline there are plenty of elseworlds to satisfy you. Now I do think you're "fear factor" point, no pun intended, is valid. But I dont think having criminals fear him more is worth it.

Well I was reading my Batman Archives Volume 1, and I came across a trio of villians that caught my eye: The Murderous Devils. The three were circus acrobatics. Very Kool

He has cutting edge tech right well they should at least show it once in a while.

Batman isn't a superhero! He's a crimefighter! There is a difference(or if you wanna call him a hero then go ahead but not a super hero) And does anyone know where I could get Batman the animated series vol. 1 and 2?

Someone that Beats up five White Martians is a Superhero if he is Human or not. I mean Look at Green Lantern he is a normal Human he just has a Ring (like Batman has Gadgets) but no one would doubt that he is a Superhero.
I wonder what your Definition of Superhero is, maybe you could give one.

My definition kinda goes like this, Superhero- a man or woman that can do unthinkable feats of strentgh, endurance, or thought; Amazingly powerful; Someone with unspeakable talent, potential, or abilities.
Non of these define Batman, This is how I define Batman- Cowled vigilante of the night; Dark Angel of Gotham; Talented fighter; Incredible mental skill;A man with incredible gadgets and physical prowess(I get these from the Marvel RPG from the 80s)
Here is his Marvel stats...
Fighting: Incredible(40)
Agility: Remarkable(30)
Strentgh: Good(10)
Endurance: Exellent(20)
Reason: Incredible(40)
Intuition: Incredible(40)
Phyche: Incredible(40)
Health:100
Karma:120
Resourses:40
Popularity:15(note, he'e a vigilante)
And that's how I define them both, oh and Michael Keaton is another way I define Batman.

Keaton? err yes, he was the best Batman actor but I wouldn't define Batman through him
And Batman kind of does Incredible things doesn't he

Originally posted by Bat Dude
And does anyone know where I could get Batman the animated series vol. 1 and 2?

Amazon.com, if you're willing to wait for shipping and stuff. If you're willing to wait a little longer, you can get free shipping, since it costs over $25. Except that vol. 2 isn't out yet.

Then when will it be?