Originally posted by GreatMuta
Question? How can the Surfer harm Juggernaught. If winning means stoping or subduing Juggy then yes surfer wins hands down. But as far as k.o. No way. I respesct the surfer and his power but i don't see him hurting juggernaught. Stopping or slowing yes, hurting no!
Maybe. Maybe not.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The rearranging molocules thing is a bit dubious. It's like Magneto's blood control. He CAN do it but he never does. Rarely.He'd win tho.
-AC
i know what you mean, my opinion is that they can do it, the writers don´t use it very often, because if they did, they would murder some enemies quite fast, and they need a good fight.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Surfer is invulnerable also.And if stopping/subduing constitutes a loss then Surfer is more than capable of producing power to do so. Where as Juggernaut isn't gonna be able to touch Surfer at all. If he could he'd probably knock him down but Surfer is invulnerable too.
-AC
Big Surfer fan here!
Unfortunately, Surfer is not invulnerable. He has had huge chunks of his body disintegrated by an entity that wasn't even on the "Big Boy" radar.
He has also been defeated by physical blows, as well as energy attacks.
And, there is nothing for his PC to manipulate with Juggernaut. His field is magical in nature. If this was a lower-level magic, his PC could possibly overpower it. But, Jugg's shield has been shown to stand up to Surfer-level attacks.
Honestly, I think the Surfer could still defeat Juggernaut probably 8 out of 10, just because Jugg's does not match up well against Surfer. Unless Juggernaut makes use of some of the more exotic ways people have weilded the Cyttorak power. Just having an indestructable shield isn't going to win this for him. And, even if he was able to amp up his strength to be stronger than Surfer, the Surfer character is rarely written in a way where he just stands there and goes blow for blow.
He would win. But, it would have to be a smart use of Surfer's abilities. Like, maybe teleporting the gem out of Cain or something. Opening up a portal inside his shield or something.
Surfer 10/10 FTW, Juggy just cant compete with the power cosmic.
To correct something said earlier, if hurled into space technically things do "explode" if not placed within a pressurized enviroment. The air pressure of earth pushes 14.7 pounds per square inch constantly and your body pushes the same pressure outward so therefor you dont crush of explode, but in space, where you dont have that air pushing down on you, your body would still push outward pressure, resulting in you "exploding"....