crazyspinzdude, if she was as powerfull as you say she is, then she would win every fight in a second, never have any trouble beating any one, and she would be higher up on the marvel higharcy, but shes not
'cause she often holds back. And since this is an all out fight, she'll kill Thor.
Evangel94Wrong, He used it to track magneto and mephisto
During the fight against magneto and mephisto? 'Cause you made it sound as if he can might it hit it's target just by throwing it.
And if he uses it as a tracker, she'll still kill him before he finds her. And he still can't break down her shield before she kills him. Sue wins.
Originally posted by Beyonder
'magneto and mephisto? 'Cause you made it sound as if he can might it hit it's target just by throwing it.
When did I say that thor can might it to hit it's target? No I said:
Originally posted by Evangel94
Thor's faster than sue and mjolnir can track enemies.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Originally posted by Beyonder
And if he uses it as a tracker, she'll still kill him before he finds her. And he still can't break down her shield before she kills him. Sue wins.
How?
...she's just powerful enough to kill Thor. And this Sue NOT holding back. If she didn't hold back, you think Blaastar or Klaw would even live? Her shield and invisibility powers would buy her enough time to put a force bubble inside his heart or head and kill him.
And when Blaastar or Klaw broke her shield, was this before or after she discovered the true extent of her powers, making her the most powerful member of the FF.
Originally posted by Beyonder
...she's just powerful enough to kill Thor. And this Sue NOT holding back.
A warrior God with an amazing weapon and magic at his disposal against the invisible woman ?
Thor wins.
who?-kidIf Susan is not holding back, than Thor will also not hold back. He can fry her from a distance, throw his hammer at her (forcefield or no forcefield, she will feel it, she's somehow connected to her forcefields), give her just one punch... you name it.
A warrior God with an amazing weapon and magic at his disposal against the invisible woman ?
Thor wins.
Did I say he was holding back? You act as if it'll take her a minute to put up a shield. As soon Thor raises that hammer and blast her, that shield would be up and keep her safe. A second later and Thor won't see where she went. And about three to four seconds later, that force bubble would be inside his head or heart and he'd drop.
warrior god? 🙄 Please, as if being a warrior god has anything to do with surviving a force bubble expanding inside your head or heart.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Did I say he was holding back? You act as if it'll take her a minute to put up a shield. As soon Thor raises that hammer and blast her, that shield would be up and keep her safe. A second later and Thor won't see where she went. And about three to four seconds later, that force bubble would be inside his head or heart and he'd drop.
And you do realize Thor is much faster than Sue ? I'd like to see the invisible woman confronted with lightning (faster than putting up a forcefield). Or a storm. Or probably the two at the same time ! She gets blown away before she can beg Reed to save her. And if not, she gets electrocuted by the lightning before she can use her powers.
warrior god? 🙄 Please, as if being a warrior god has anything to do with surviving a force bubble expanding inside your head or heart.
Well, he IS a warrior God, this is not to be taken lightly. Her forcefields can not take many hits from Mjolnir (or even Thor). And like I said, she's connected with her forcefields, so it is certainly not far fetched to say she will faint - happened lots of times - because Thor will pound her forcefield with all he's got.
who?kidHah ! That's what you say. Thor is extremely durable, there's no proof such a way of fighting will work. And even if it does, so what ? Lightning is still much faster than your bubble. You know, God of Thunder...!?
What does lightning being faster have anything to do with a force bubble. Her shields only need to hold until she goes invisible and move away from them. Then she can make a force bubble inside his brain or heart and kill him. Lightning is fast and so is Thor, but Juggernaut and Ultron still kicked his ass. So much for being fast.
Well, he IS a warrior God, this is not to be taken lightly. Her forcefields can not take many hits from Mjolnir (or even Thor). And like I said, she's connected with her forcefields, so it is certainly not far fetched to say she will faint - happened lots of times - because Thor will pound her forcefield with all he's got.
I'm not taking it lightly, but it's not like it's her fighting skills against his warrior skills. Her forcefields would only need to hold long enough to got invisible (about a second) then she'll get out of the way. How would he be able to even attack her if he can't SEE her (to even try attack and try to break down her force field). Thor pouding her with all he's got? If she just STOOD their with turning invisible and let him pound at her force field! 🙄 Faint? She's not that weak. She can also bind him with her powers and pull off the bubble trick.
Thor has used rain to find invisible oppenents and used the mjolnir to track them as well.
Also, Thor can conceivably create an unconventional type (Cosmic) Hurricane like the one he used against the Living Monolith. The sheer Wind-Force itself far exceeds that of a category 5 Hurricane. Such Force could literally wipe out entire 20 story buildings from their Foundation (The Infinity Saga). This is a devastating assault that will necessitate sue rasing her forcefield and allowing thor to hit her with his big guns if the strom and hurricane doesn't finish her off first.
Also, Thor could use his spatial powers to send her practically anywhere in the known Universe, as well as create his own Force-Field around himself or Sue at superhuman speed. In addition, Thor can use lightning bolts that usually tends to travel millions of ft. a second. That's yet another powerful weapon in Thor's arsenal that could very well decide the outcome.
Sue cannot create a force bubble inside someone without frist finding an opening and injecting her forcefield inside and expanding it all the while being really close to them. With everything thor is throwing at her, she won't the chance to do so.
sue has a hard time maintaining her invisible shield and making an attack at once. although im not up to date with fantastic4,last i heard sue had a hard time maintaining her shield while being attacked by strong beings.
take note that thor has a lot of magic to back him up. he could just teleport sue away to another place, like he did juggernaut. you want this fight to be sue not holding back then you might want to pit her against thor not holding back. the thunder god can fry their battle arena with a big radius.sue will eventually lose after a full onslaught from thor. he doesn't need to see her, just simply fry everything around him.
When Sue is not holding back she is probably the most powerful person on earth....after watching Galactus kill her entire family she blasted a whole right through his chest with ease...Thor could not survive that...nor duplicate that attack...nor could any earthlings except Franklin Richards i think. she not only broke the armor of the Executioner celestial (the greatest of all the celestials, apparently has a greater mass than the Earth) she went into his body and destroyed his "brain" or central energy/intelligence which resulted in his disentigration...she was using a technique where she was using pure hyperspace energy, hyperspace is the dimension that Nathaniel Richards (Reed Richard's father) hypothesizes her power originates in...her power does not come from modified cells like a mutant (cyclops) or from Mystical sources (juggernaut) it comes from an entire dimension of pure energy, hyperspace. She also employed this technique to shatter an army of Hyperstorm's Juggernauts, which were powerful enough to single handedly conquer a planet. Blastar and Klaw have not ever broken Sue's force field....they may have exhausted her reserves...but only back when she was far less mature (Invisible Girl). but the only time her field has ever actually been broken by sheer force was when Doom was wielding the power of a watcher and enhancing it with his own technology..."My force field has never been broken not even by Galactus" -Invisible woman FF#275 i think. Thor lacks the sufficient energy...also Invisible woman does not sit on the sidelines and erect force fields anymore...after Reed was thought to be dead she was the leader of the FF and the most offensive member...she considers Thor a friend and so does he, so i doubt either would go into the fight using lethal force...but dont underestimate Invisible woman, she if far tougher than many of u think...Thor cannot break her forcefield...and if she had to, she could wreck Thor
who?-kidNobody is underestimating her powers.
She's just not strong enough to beat Thor, that's all.
How is she not strong enough? Wynndar gave more than enough evidence as oppose to you and everyone else who says Thor can win, but don't have the evidence for it. And try using logic please.
Evangel94Thor has used rain to find invisible oppenents and used the mjolnir to track them as well.
Also, Thor can conceivably create an unconventional type (Cosmic) Hurricane like the one he used against the Living Monolith. The sheer Wind-Force itself far exceeds that of a category 5 Hurricane. Such Force could literally wipe out entire 20 story buildings from their Foundation (The Infinity Saga). This is a devastating assault that will necessitate sue rasing her forcefield and allowing thor to hit her with his big guns if the strom and hurricane doesn't finish her off first.
Also, Thor could use his spatial powers to send her practically anywhere in the known Universe, as well as create his own Force-Field around himself or Sue at superhuman speed. In addition, Thor can use lightning bolts that usually tends to travel millions of ft. a second. That's yet another powerful weapon in Thor's arsenal that could very well decide the outcome.
Sue cannot create a force bubble inside someone without frist finding an opening and injecting her forcefield inside and expanding it all the while being really close to them. With everything thor is throwing at her, she won't the chance to do so.
Thing is, Thor can't do any of that faster than she can kill him with a force bubble. And your lack of knowledge of Sue is apparant, she DOES NOT INJECT her force bubble inside someone - she creates it inside of them. She doesn't need any opening from Thor. Even if he decides to create a force field (which you claim he can, but I doubt), she can still create one inside of his head or heart and expand it outward and kill him.
FrothBytetake note that thor has a lot of magic to back him up. he could just teleport sue away to another place, like he did juggernaut. you want this fight to be sue not holding back then you might want to pit her against thor not holding back. the thunder god can fry their battle arena with a big radius.sue will eventually lose after a full onslaught from thor. he doesn't need to see her, just simply fry everything around him.
But can he do this faster than she can put up a force field, go invisible, and use a force bubble inside his head? He can fry everything he wants to, but she only needs to shield herself and go invisible, then it's force bubble would kill him.