Invisible Women vs. Thor: god of thunder

Started by Beyonder22 pages

Evangel94

Are you refering to Fantastic Four #400?

Sue's powers derive from the very substance of the shells that enclose the bodies of Celestial. Because of that, she was able to go through the armor using her powers. She didn't outright smash through the armor as you are making it out to be.

Have you even read the issue at all?

Stop shooting out your unknowledgable opinion without any facts to back it up.

This coming from someone who doesn't even address Galactus. Don't criticize Wynndar when you yourself is dodging an argument. He said Exitar and Galactus, not just Exitar. 😛

This coming from someone who doesn't even address Galactus. Don't criticize Wynndar when you yourself is dodging an argument. He said Exitar and Galactus, not just Exitar.

Galactus was almost killed by thor's godblast, so that nullifies your point.

Galactus's power can vary depending on how much planets he has fed on.

He has himself beaten around from the likes of Thanos to thor. He is one of the most abusely written cosmic entities in the Marvel Universe. It's gotten to the point where him getting hurt isn't a feat of strength, not by a long shot.

Did anyone say anything about whether or not Galactus can be hurt? We're comparing durabilities: Galactus' armor Vs. Thor's brain or heart. His showings may vary but how many times has anyone actually broke through his armor? You think Thor's brain or heart is tougher than Galactus' armor?

Galactus doesn't utilize armor in the fashion you are describing. His durability is what he uses. His durability relies on how much he has fed. They are dependent on one another. He can be hurt by normal superheroes if he hasn't eaten in a long time.

This is all BESIDE the point.


Sue didn't break through the armor. Her powers are derived from it, which allows her to bypass it.

You want to talk about durability? Thor has more durability than Sue ever will. Don't even try to talk about force fields since they themselves have nothing to do with actual bodily durability. One direct hit to Sue and it's over.

So far all you keep repeating the same thing over and over. Sue can turn invisible and hit thor with a force bubble. You can't actually "prove" that it would kill thor since Thor has taken more of a beating to his body on a regular basis than anything I've seen Sue dish out normally.

Thor can also spin his hammer to create a forcefield strong enough to deflect away the odin force. How could she penetrate a field strong enough to deflect the odinforce? She can't. Her offensive powers are nullified in this case.

I keep telling you, the mjolnir enables thor to track invisible enemies. He can also summon that cosmic storm which would stop her from moving around freely. That strom would necessitate the use of her forcefield to protect herself. That alone would make her a target for thor's bigger guns. And yes he can do it in under ten seconds.

Oh and lets not forget that thor can instantaneouly transport her to any part of the known universe. That end's the battle right away.

Since when does Sue normally go around defeating enemies by creating force bubbles in their brains or hearts. She doesn't normally fight like that at all and would most likely use it as a last resort.

In the end, Thor wins way more often than not due to his vast amount of options at his disposal.

Do you see this quote above? Good. Now you can get back to the point of this argument and address what I quoted above.

Again, how MANY times has Galactus' armor bend cracked? Yes, his powers fluates depending on his hunger, but how many times has anyone cracked his armor?

Answer what? Sue can create the force bubble inside his head. Just 'cause he had a force field up doesn't mean she can't create one inside of his head. His force field deflecting an odin force proves that his force can protect him from a direct attack to his force field. Sue's force bubble doesn't attack directly - she can create one out of thin air.

As for proof that her attack would kill Thor, what part of Galactus or Exitar don't you get? And just 'cause Thor's outer body can take punishments well; it's doesn't mean his inner can - especially when were talking about body tissues of the brain and the heart. What part of that don't YOU understand?

And what part of TIMING don't you GET? She can take him out faster than he can her? He's gotta find her and break her shield to get to her - but that force bubble would be inside his head or heart before he could find her and break through that force field.

i am realy starting to hate this thread, i think that beyonder is the only one who acualy thiks sue can win

Don't forget Wynndar, Swanky-Tuna, norrin radd, emraldguardian. Gee I'm the only one. 🙄

Except I'm still in the "choke him out with a shield in the lungs" party. Thor still has to breath doesn't he?

Yes. But those who are arguing that he'd win would argue that he's a god and so he wins.

Originally posted by Beyonder

As for proof that her attack would kill Thor, what part of Galactus or Exitar don't you get? And just 'cause Thor's outer body can take punishments well; it's doesn't mean his inner can - especially when were talking about body tissues of the brain and the heart. What part of that don't YOU understand?

you are assuming that thor's insides are made from the same stuff that makes us. do you have any proof that an asgardian god's brain and heart are made from soft tissue? if im not mistaken, thor can fly through space right? if that is correct, i assume he doesn't need to breathe, and that his internal organs are strong enough to resist the pull of the vacuum of space. so i don't really think that blowing up his heart or brain is that valid until we know what durability these things have.

Galactus & Exitar's durability > Thor's brain & heart. Unless you think differently.

Thor has soft tissue, they r just far denser and durable than a regular humans....Betty Banner held a Uzi up to the red headed Thor's head and he had to admit it would kill him...and yes i have read issue four hundred I own almost every issue of fantastic four....it is one of my favorite titles...your argument about her utilizing energy straight from hyperspace doesnt mean it wouldnt destroy Thor too...she has used that attack on other occassions: when fighting other highly durable enemies like Hyperstorm's juggernauts...that attack would still shatter Thor....but she wouldnt need to, she could just put a force bubble in his brain like someone else had mentioned...and i was not trying to say Sue beat on Galactus...because she didnt...even though she blasted through his chest he just mocked her and then mentally ravaged her...Galactus' appearance is just a manifestation of his existence...u cant truly harm him with physical force, Reed Richards has mentioned this before...only when he is close to death already is when he is vulnerable...regardless, if she could put a hole in Galactus Im sure she could put a hole in Thor

if she could beat thor as esily as u say she could she could beat anyone, but she cant

yea your right....thats why the fantastic four always lose

is that sarcasim i see over there, no couldnt be...

well i think i made it clear that she has already fought plenty of people more powerful than Thor...I dont think she can beat everyone in the marvel universe...I think you r placing Thor way too high on the food chain if you think he could compare to Exitar or Galactus

no i dont compare him to that, but for example, dr doom beats the 4 all the time, and hes not dead, and im sure that the 4 wish he was dead, yet no force bubble, or freaky invisible trick, and thor is quite abit more durible than doom, but dom still owns

doom*

Invisible woman has used the force bubble on Doom...u know why Doom is still alive?....he has only appeared in person only like 10 times....the rest are alaways doombots...and because Invisible Woman doesnt try to kill...the reason she tried to kill Galactus was because she had just watched him kill the Human torch and the Thing...Dr Doom would easily drop Thor...when he reprogramed Ultron to be his slave and body guard he fitted him with a disintegrator ray that could erase Thor in the blink of an eye....when Ultron shot Thor with it he had to teleport away as his only defense...when Thor disappeared and the only thing that remained was his hat...Doom assumed he had been disintigrated

Exitar or Galactus flat out has nothing to do with this. Do you see Exitar or Galactus anywhere in this topic title? No. Were not comparing Thor to Exitar or Galactus. Were comparing Thor to Sue Richards. So stop repeating the same thing over and over.