Since the conversation has turned towards horror filmmakers, I'll chyme in with my opinion on the top horror directors of all time....
George Romero is definately a name that any horror fan should expect on any list involving horror film makers. His Trilogy of the Dead are among not only the finest horror series ever made, but among the finest of all film series. They are all well respected by both mainstream audiences and genre audiences, something that's nearly unheard of when it comes to a horror film maker. His zombie films set the standard that are still used to this day.
Tobe Hooper deserves a mention, if for no other reason, then for creating what is often sited as the the most innovative horror film of all time, the TCM. I won't praise this movie, I've done that numerous other times in other threads, just rest assured this movie is gold, and he deserves all the credit he can get for that amazing film.
Argento and Fulci are both also great artists who's works aren't quite as apreciated as they should be. This is especially true for Fulci, the master of gore.
Reggero Deodato deserves mention for his beautiful and insanely original Cannibal Holocaust, the definitive cannibal film. It is disgusting, humerous and most importantly, believable. Also has a great musical score and some outstandingly poigneant social commentary. Arguably the most under rated horror film of all time.
As for Craven and Carpentor, I think they're both a bit over rated. Craven, on one hand had some outstanding first films. Last House on the Left and The Hills Have Eyes are both extremely innovative in the horror genre, and their infulence is seen still today. Carpentor's brilliance is in his ability to use both horror elements and combine them seamlessly with Sci Fi elements. Also he had some genuinely creepy films. Although I dislike his most famous film - Halloween, he has made some others that I truly love.
Originally posted by BackFire
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Tobe Hooper is a bad director. FACT!
I know this thread - as all good threads do - has skewed off topic but the idea that tobe could show up in a Most Talented Filmmaker Of All Time discussion is laughable.
Other than TCM - a point-and-shoot which, thanks to the script and subject matter is actually aided by his ineptitude (in a kinda Blair-witch shakeycam precursor) the man is responsible for some of the most appalling directed spew ever committed to celluloid. His resume is a list of shame and despair.
Oh, I'm well aware of his shitty resume of films. As I said, I simply mentioned him because he's responsible for the great TCM, which doesn't fit your overly simplistic description of the film.
Also, if you're going to quote something someone says, do not change what is said into something patronizing, it's simple courtesy. Either do a direct quote or don't quote at all. What you did is looked down upon as it serves no purpose other then being an indirect insult.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Yes i am. Glad to see you can't take criticism without wetting yourself.Now apologize for the name - calling.
F*ck no I'm not apologizing. You attacked my intelligence like 3 times. Its one thing to "criticize" or "disagree" with one of my views, but you tried to attack my intelligence just because I answered 'my' favs all time rather than the people more known for being the 'best.' I told you to back off and I expected an apology myself or at least the minimum of you not attacking again so why would I apologize?
Take this for example: If somebody were to ask "What is the best movie?" Somebody (including myself) may answer "Pulp Fiction." You don't jump on their back like some ******* and say "No you retard, at least say something along the lines of the Godfather. You must not actually care about what topic a thread is addressing."
Dr Stranglelove - Thats cool with me. I have no problem with somebody disagreeing with one of my opinions as long as they are not an ******* about it like some people are.
Originally posted by BackFire
do not change what is said into something patronizing, it's simple courtesy. Either do a direct quote or don't quote at all.
Didnt intent to be patronizing to you, i was paraphrasing. Trust me when i say that because I have nooooo problem with being patronizing.
So - I'm curious, if you think TCM is so well directed, what the hell went wrong with Tobes brain afterward that put his talent in the pooper?
Originally posted by Myth
F*ck no I'm not apologizing. You attacked my intelligence like 3 times.Take this for example: If somebody were to ask "What is the best movie?" Somebody (including myself) may answer "Pulp Fiction." You don't jump on their back like some ******* and say "No you retard, at least say something along the lines of the Godfather. You must not actually care about what topic a thread is addressing."[/B]
No sweetie, what i did was creatively express my disbelief when you flat out admitted that you didnt care what the thread was about, you just wanted to list your personal faves.
Also - I'd never call someone a retard - But if someone said the "best film" was Showgirls, and then when asked admitted they didnt think it was the best film, it was just one they liked to jerk off over I'd have to wonder if they were - yanno - paying any attention to the discussion in the forum of just in love with the sound of their own typing.
Now try to play nice - there's a good boy.
i think that pacinos performance in scarface was better than godfather...if anything godfather is overrated......OMG thats right....i said it.....pacino worked off of duvall, caan, and brando plus coppalla directed it...yea i cant spell it.....pacino pretty much carried scarface yea he had a good director and worked with some good actors in it but not the likes of a brando or duvall
someone asked if anyone mentioned kevin smith and i hope the ansewer is no...he's a good writer and director but not in the same league as all the other names that were mentioned
Originally posted by Mr Zero
No sweetie, what i did was creatively express my disbelief when you flat out admitted that you didnt care what the thread was about, you just wanted to list your personal faves.Also - I'd never call someone a retard - But if someone said the "best film" was Showgirls, and then when asked admitted they didnt think it was the best film, it was just one they liked to jerk off over I'd have to wonder if they were - yanno - paying any attention to the discussion in the forum of just in love with the sound of their own typing.
Now try to play nice - there's a good boy.
You may not have intentionally patronized Backfire but you did intentionally patronize me.
First you ridicule people with this post:
Thankyou for making this thread less of a circle jerk shitfest. I despair of people who spew up the same old names with no indication of why they think so-and-so is worth our time. People like Tarantino, Cameron and Rami are fine entertaining directors but saying they are the "best of all time" (a nonsensical claim in any case) is beyond ludicrous. Those of you who can't think beyond the latest hot-ticket mainstream "cool" list might bear it mind It's the equivalent of Saying Britnee Spears makes the worlds "best ever" music. It's a populist approach, and makes you look like sheep. Baaaahhhh!
This is an attack on my intelligence (after I admitted my mistake btw leaving no need for an attack):
Oh, what you are saying is that you ignored the actual topic of the thread and used it as an excuse to list your favorite directors, much in the way the pre-teens in the LOTR forum will leap at any excuse to type "ORLANDO!!!"
Patronizing again:
My mistake - I can only apologize for not working that out.
After I tell you to back off you still post this to re-acknowledge a mistake:
unless like Myth you don't actually care about what topic a thread is addressing
😱 Look! Its that ******* patronizing people again!
Personally i'm open to being moved, mystified, educated, bewildered, angered, excited, enraged... but thats just strange old me.
Patronizing:
No sweetie,
Patronizing:
Now try to play nice - there's a good boy.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Didnt intent to be patronizing to you, i was paraphrasing. Trust me when i say that because I have nooooo problem with being patronizing.So - I'm curious, if you think TCM is so well directed, what the hell went wrong with Tobes brain afterward that put his talent in the pooper?
He simply shot his wad with TCM. He had one good film in him and that was it. I'll be the first to admit he's something of a one hit wonder, but I felt his name was worth mentioning since he's ultimately responsible for such a great and important film. However, I'm also well aware that much of the credit for the films greatness goes to the cinematographer.
Tobe Hooper--I thought "Poltergeist" was a well-made film, so he can be at least considered more than a one-hit wonder.
Kevin Smith--frankly, I've never cared for the delivery of dialogue in most of his films. The actors sound like they just memorized paragraphs of Smith's own thoughts on life, love and pop culture, and are repeating it without giving much thought to what the words mean (or maybe that's just the actors' fault; it's not as though Jason Mewes is the DeNiro of his generation).
Anyway, I've enjoyed Smith's movies overall, since they make me laugh and keep me watching, without resorting to 90 minutes of Rob Schneider-esque pratfalls 'n' farting.