Originally posted by hunchy
"Protest is Patriotism!"Right...how it is I wouldn't know...
Because YOU just accept what that no good dictator of yours tells you, and you roll with it, even though hes putting you and everone else in USA in danger.
People who protest, must love their country because those people want to take it away from people like Bush who are there to destroy it.
its not like the american military sits down and says "right lads, wanna kill some more civilians today?" - theyre doing military operations with the express intention of limiting civilian casualities while still managing to complete the operation.
whereas Saddam and his government actually set about killing his own civilians for various reasons
the Ba'th party...
we've discussed this all before....the Americans put the Baa'th party into power, then Saddam rose up thru the party using dodgy methods, and ultimately became dictator thru no choice of the US
and ur whole "US put him into power" argument doesnt fly, makes it sound like ur justifying genocide because the US put him into power
oh so now to protest is unamerican, right?
perfect example of brainwashing.
we as americans have a constitutional right to gather and protest.
but...i guess thats just a glitch in our constitution right?
how DARE we members of a free society even THINK of disagreeing
with the powers that be! unamerican scum we are.
(rolls eyes)
our system of government was set up with a complete lack of trust for those with power. our founding fathers began the war for independance through protest. to question authority is the true american way. that is how we have managed to become a free nation, and remain a free nation.
Originally posted by Df02
the Ba'th party...
we've discussed this all before....the Americans put the Baa'th party into power, then Saddam rose up thru the party using dodgy methods, and ultimately became dictator thru no choice of the USand ur whole "US put him into power" argument doesnt fly, makes it sound like ur justifying genocide because the US put him into power
Are you actualy reading what you are saying, or are you just mindlessly typing for the sake of typing something...anything.
How am I justifying any killing? I AM THE ONE AGAINST THE WAR! Sheesh!
Second of all, Saddamn might be a murderer and a nut case, but he did get one thing right. He said ''If i give myself up or if i dont, it makes no differancee, America is gonna bomb Iraq reguardless''
my sig says it all.
i cant say it enough.
so...
"Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety are not deserving of either liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin
"Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety are not deserving of either liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin
"Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety are not deserving of either liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin
"Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety are not deserving of either liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin
hey, repetition seems to work for bush in making a lie into the truth...what would repetition do for an ignored truth?
are u reading what im saying either? - im saying that you're are trying to argue against a war thats thrown out a murderous dictator, by saying that America put Saddam in power in the first place... - and im saying that makes no sense, because it sounds like ur trying to justify HIS genocide (not the war, the fact that he kills millions of kurds)
if there was any other way to oust Saddam id have approved it whole-heartedly...but there wasnt, war was the only way to get rid of him, and it worked
im not a war-monger, but this war has successfully ensured the safety and generally improved the welfare of the Iraqi people for the future
EDIT: sorry for late reply, was watching england match...and its half time so ill be off again soon
at the end of the day we're both looking at the war from different perspectives, and arent going to agree......the fact is the war has done good and bad things, which outweighs the other however is a matter of opinion
Bush is not a dictator...he is nothing like one...It's people's freedom to protest, but it is nothing of Patriotism...ask those who have faught in wars what they think Patriotism is....you'll get the real answer.
"Because YOU just accept what that no good dictator of yours tells you, and you roll with it, even though hes putting you and everone else in USA in danger.
People who protest, must love their country because those people want to take it away from people like Bush who are there to destroy it."