well cap his the better better fighting style, panther has better speed and agility, and all-in-all their fighting ability is pretty much even. panthers toys are alright but caps shield is teh awesome. i dont think panther has a chance in hell of catching that thing, cap has thrown it so hard it took down a helicopter. im going with cap on this
Originally posted by long pig
Do I?
I don't remember 99% of the shit I say, so to me it's new. 😉
Hahaha....I didnt mean any disrespect by it just so theres no confusion....but youve said that like in every thread...you really hate Panther? and is he really a race joke? Id really like to know what you mean...again no disrespect
I see Cap winning this. Panther's cool and all, with his gadgets and toys, but Cap's game is based soley on fighting and tactical applications of fighting. I think Cap has the edge in sheer raw skill, and in the fight Panther will be worrying about what gadgets to pull on him, while Cap's head is completely in the fight. The shield is a underestimated factor, Cap can use that thing to block just about anything Panther can throw at him. CHARGING STAR!
Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Nope Im going by my old school rememberances, why, whats different? Give me knowledge, so that I may wipe away my ignorance and make a better judgement.
Wow. Huuuge differences.
T'Challa is now better than Batman with prep time. You know how incredible a businessman Tony Starks is, right? T'Challa took him down by manipulating the global economy and took over Stark Enterprises.
He developed a strategy to take down Galactus.
He has enhanced hearing, smell, taste, agility, SPEED, balance, and night vision -- if he ran into Peter Parker he'd instantly know he was Spiderman. Before anyone asks where I get this, it is from CHRISTOPER PRIEST'S (who restored Black Panther, basically) website: http://phonogram.us/comics/panther/faq.htm
Beyond his enhanced senses, the Panther is an above-average athlete. He is probably faster than Captain America, and can certainly track prey better, but Cap is probably a bit stronger than T'Challa and may have greater endurance. The two are very similar in terms of their abilities and their zeal for justice. And, like Captain America, Panther will always find a way (how many times have I said that about Cap). Unflappable even in the face of great peril, Panther, like Cap, ignores the odds and keeps fighting for victory.
The Black Panther has a very simple set of toys. As an inventor, he could certainly pull the Fractal TechGear Deep Sea Panther Armor (TM) out of his hat, but we try to play by the rules we set out. Panther's basic arsenal is:
[1] an energy dagger. This is supposed to be a virtual dagger, with a typical, ornate hilt carved out of ivory or stone or something, and an energy-generated blade that can be set to stun or kill. Early in the run, the editors and artist decided the energy dagger blades could be either handled like an actual knife or fired like darts.
[2] a Kimoyo card. Kimoyo is Bantu for "Of the Spirit." It is kind of a Mother Box with tons of applications. It is basically a Palm Pilot amped to the Nth degree. It functions a lot like the Avengers' communicards, but with a lot more practical applications (in issue #14, for example, Panther called up a virtual schematic of a jumbo jet's cockpit controls and took command of the plane, landing it safely in a river).
[3] energy dampening soles in his boots. Energy regulators create varying fields from the Vibranium in the molded soles of the boots, enabling Panther to survive a fall of eight stories and land like a cat. Given enough momentum, Panther can also scale walls or walk on water, and the field can be also used offensively to shatter or weaken objects.
[4] the Panther's costume contains a Vibranium microweave mesh that works a lot like super-kevlar. The microweave robs incoming objects of their momentum (bullets do not ricochet off but simply fall to the ground when they come in contact with the weave). Likewise, the Panther cannot be stabbed, but the costume (and Panther) can be cut if the attacker slashes along the grain of the costume (see the Kraven fight in issue #7 and 8). The lenses in the mask cut glare and enhance his natural night vision. The claws in his gloves are made of Vibranium-based "Anti-Metal," and can break down most any metal known to man at the molecular level. In *theory*, Panther's claws could damage Captain America's shield, the hardest metal known to the Marvel Universe. But, that's, in *theory.* Combined with the Vibranium-soled boots, the claws enable Panther to scale any wall to any height, and even cling to the underbelly of a plane in flight (again, issue #14). The cloak can be elongated or shortened or eliminated with just a thought, and the entire costume can morph into King T'Challa's trademark black business suit (he usually steps into a shadow and emerges in the other outfit)
I thought this was a great quote -- I have been saying this all along:
Different writers have different views and interpretations of characters. My view of Panther is it makes no sense to me for so great and brilliant a creator to never use even the most modest and reasonable technology in the furtherance of his work. I mean, it just baffled me that Panther used to get beat up and shot almost every month, when he is certainly capable of kicking butt himself, and he could and should take some reasonable precautions (like a bullet-proof suit).