Nightwing Vs Daredevil

Originally posted by Scarlet315
I don't doubt that Dick is a great fighter trained by an even better fighter but DD still has the edge, more years experience, and senses that can rival Spidey and Logan.

https://youtu.be/lLBZcZ8BZVc

This guy explains why perfectly. What i don't get is how Dick who last i checked has no powers and is just human can pimp slap your champion midnighter but when placed against someone with the proportionate strength of a spider the debate can go on for many pages.

Midnighter's senses are much better than Matt's and he has more experieince to boot. Grayson was still able to match him for a time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Now, let's go through who Ultron has fought....

He had help from Karnak and lol non-adamantium cables. Anyway Dick can play this game as well.

Below is Grayson with a lil help taking on Paragon (who has the powers of the Justice League).

Oh right, I forgot.

Nightwing > JLA.

Originally posted by Smurph
Oh right, I forgot.

Nightwing > JLA.

👆 Just like Ultron << Daredevil

Originally posted by Supermutant
👆 Just like Ultron << Daredevil

Ultron was brought up--with the suggestion "Now, let's go through who Ultron has fought...."--to poke holes in ABC logic (see: Golgo and Midnighter).

Ultron was not brought up to get in a pissing contest about irrelevant robot fights. ermmnone

As of now, evidence points to Nightwing being able to hang with, but not beat Daredevil. Edge to Matt.

What evidence does Matt have that he can beat nightwing?

Originally posted by Smurph
...and, you've missed the point.

Ultron was brought up--with the suggestion "Now, let's go through who Ultron has fought...."--to poke holes in ABC logic (see: Golgo and Midnighter).

Ultron was not brought up to get in a pissing contest about irrelevant robot fights. ermmnone

As of now, evidence points to Nightwing being able to hang with, but not beat Daredevil. Edge to Matt.

...and you mentioned the obvious while still missing the point.

Grayson had gear to help him with Midnighter, not the same PIS as red pajamas decapitating Ultron.

With Grayson entire career of fighting crime as a child, constant training, and much better gear, he can definitely win his share.

Originally posted by Zack M
What evidence does Matt have that he can beat nightwing?

https://youtu.be/lLBZcZ8BZVc

I really hope this link works. You'll find your answer here.

It really does answer my question. And with all your pics of nightwing can just as easily be done by DD. So it just boils down to these two. And Matt takes the clear victory because he's like cassandra cain on crack

lol that youtube video is just an opinion. It doesn't hold any weight. And they still said it could go either way. Nor did they mention that NW has sonic devices as standard gear, or that his suit can emit a powerful electrical charge.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Grayson had gear to help him with Midnighter, not the same PIS as red pajamas decapitating Ultron.

You can justify using ABC logic, or try another route.

til then, edge to Daredevil.

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol that youtube video is just an opinion. It doesn't hold any weight. And they still said it could go either way. Nor did they mention that NW has sonic devices as standard gear, or that his suit can emit a powerful electrical charge.

It was mentioned but it was also mentioned that nightwing has been trained to operate in the shadows mostly hence his smoke grenades and costume being dark and he doesn't know anything about DD. DD going in has the clear advantage

Originally posted by Supermutant
...and you mentioned the obvious while still missing the point.

Grayson had gear to help him with Midnighter, not the same PIS as red pajamas decapitating Ultron.

With Grayson entire career of fighting crime as a child, constant training, and much better gear, he can definitely win his share.

That is true. 👆

I guess Dick has the experience edge, too.

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol that youtube video is just an opinion. It doesn't hold any weight. And they still said it could go either way. Nor did they mention that NW has sonic devices as standard gear, or that his suit can emit a powerful electrical charge.

Yeah, those videos don't hold any weight. Comics/feats do, and Dick has had a lot to go on these past several years (Ever since he put on the bat costume). Honestly, I'd give NW a solid 6 or 7/10.

Originally posted by Smurph
again, entirely not the point.

You can justify using ABC logic, or try another route.

til then, edge to Daredevil.

I don't have anything to justify. No evidence has been presented that shows why Nightwing can't win.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, those videos don't hold any weight. Comics/feats do, and Dick has had a lot to go on these past several years (Ever since he put on the bat costume). Honestly, I'd give NW a solid 6 or 7/10.

Wrong again. The video just states clearly what we already know about the two characters, list their skills and powerset, and analytically breaks down how one would fare against the other. It also at least in my case points things out which one might overlook

DD 6.5-7/10

Originally posted by Scarlet315
Wrong again. The video just states clearly what we already know about the two characters, list their skills and powerset, and analytically breaks down how one would fare against the other. It also at least in my case points things out which one might overlook

It's outdated. Still giving this to NW.

Originally posted by Zack M
It's outdated. Still giving this to NW.

Unless DD can now see and nightwing has powers its hard to convince me otherwise. The devil of hells kitchen for the majority

Got to go with the times, my man.