Originally posted by MERCILOUS
It hold plenty of ground. Ask my friends at the dojo.Batman and BP are about equally trained. More experience makes Batman the better fighter. He's not just handling bank robbers, this makes me think you read little to no Batman. And you trained as hard as both of them and devoted your all your time to fighting, then yes, you'd be better than both of them. As is Lady Shiva, Karate Kid and Shange Chi for the same reason.
It is also quite obvious you do not engage in fights. If you did all this would make sense to you.
Sorry if it wasnt obvious from talking to u on the internet about comic books hahaha...Im actually very well adept to fighting...I grew up fighting, boxing and wrestling since elementary school and was a college wrestler at Arizona state and then Indiana University, both nationally ranked programs...I am now a Junior at ASU and not competing on the team this year so I can focus on my degree in Biology...however, I still muddle around with American Pankration through the school. I dont think it is near as challenging as college wrestling and have never lost in it yet...the first week of December I am wrestling in an open tournament unattached...I will post some pictures form my matches when I get them, wish me luck...I am 5' 10" slightly over 200lbs...I bench 350lbs, squat 550lbs...and power clean just over 300lbs...I know quite a lot about fighting, and conditioning/training/discipline...I dont have any wrestling pics on my computer at the present...I do have some pics from last weekend at halloween...Im dressed up like the devil in this one here with one of my college friends:
However minimal, they are still advantages and between two superior specimens like Batman and Black Panther even the smallest advantage means the difference between winning and losing. And Batman's senses are NO WHERE NEAR Black Panther's. He can smell and track people just as well as Wolverine. His Agility is far superior, he can land from high up on the ground. He can run up buildings and can hold back an ELEPHANT with both arms extended. ( Black Panther #58. )
In Batman #608 when he was pursuing Catwoman she cut his cord and he proceeded to plummet a couple of hundred feet downward. He reached out for a ledge and broke his arm while attempting to stabilize his fall. Batman is a " man ". Unlike T'Challa he has no overly enhanced senses. Now had that been T'Challa he would have either A.) Dropped down and landed on the ground without making a SOUND or B.) Grabbed the ledge without braking his shoulder. Batman's not as durable as T'Challa is.
Homie. That's a part of his arsenal. That's like trying to take away Batman's gear and saying that he doesn't need it. And let's be serious -- he NEEDS it. Batman without his Bat-stuff is just a rich boy of exceptional skill. T'Challa without his " gear " is a KING of superhuman senses, speed, strength and agility. ( Let's not forget the heart-shaped herb which gave him powers similar to Captain America. )
Originally posted by Wynndar
Sorry if it wasnt obvious from talking to u on the internet about comic books hahaha...Im actually very well adept to fighting...I grew up fighting, boxing and wrestling since elementary school and was a college wrestler at Arizona state and then Indiana University, both nationally ranked programs...I am now a Junior at ASU and not competing on the team this year so I can focus on my degree in Biology...however, I still muddle around with American Pankration through the school. I dont think it is near as challenging as college wrestling and have never lost in it yet...the first week of December I am wrestling in an open tournament unattached...I will post some pictures form my matches when I get them, wish me luck...I am 5' 10" slightly over 200lbs...I bench 350lbs, squat 550lbs...and power clean just over 300lbs...I know quite a lot about fighting, and conditioning/training/discipline...I dont have any wrestling pics on my computer at the present...I do have some pics from last weekend at halloween...Im dressed up like the devil in this one here with one of my college friends:
Then I don't understand why you don't agree.
Originally posted by Nathaniel Grey
Homie. That's a part of his arsenal. That's like trying to take away Batman's gear and saying that he doesn't need it. And let's be serious -- he NEEDS it. Batman without his Bat-stuff is just a rich boy of exceptional skill. T'Challa without his " gear " is a KING of superhuman senses, speed, strength and agility. ( Let's not forget the heart-shaped herb which gave him powers similar to Captain America. )
No, take away all there gadgets and lock them in a room and Batman takes it.
Bruce would STILL lose. Without his gear he's just a MAN of exceptional strength, speed and agility. Exceptional yes but just a MAN. T'Challa is the PEAK of humanity. He's SUPERHUMAN. The man fights Panther's, Lion's, Rhino's and GIANT APES in his spare time. WITHOUT his gear. In Wakandan tradition he had to fight these giant white apes to get the heart shaped herb without his RECENT gear. Batman can't match that.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Then I don't understand why you don't agree.
Well the thing is I have trashed people who have much more experience than me, and have been beaten by less experienced people...experience only goes so far because some things cant be tought. BP is an excellent example of this because a lot of his abilities come from his cat instincts he has acquired from his spiritual closeness to the Black Panther. u mentioned dojo earlier...what do u train for?...here is another halloween pic showing my wrestler arms and neck:
As for the fighting arguement, I'm asking that you take both things into account. Good training can make a fighter as can experience. If both fighters have equal experience then the one with better training is likely to win. If both fighters have similar training then the more experienced on is likley to win. Ask Randy Cotour.
from my experience with match-ups, i've learned that experience isn't a deciding factor, i see it as both of them with their suits and no utility belts or anything of the like, i think BP wins due to his superhuman abilities, where batman has good experience so does bp, where batman has martial arts skill bp has his own kind of fighting skill which has proven against humans and even stronger beasts, when it comes down to it the "human" batman is out-classed by the superhuman black panther