This doesn't go to say that Black Panther would easily take down the Batman, oh no. Batman's too strong of a character and too resourceful to be beaten easily. His will has overcome many a difficult situation and even those that were new and seemed hopeless. Their fight would be a long drawn out and arduous battle that would require both men to throw in everything they've got. And in my opinion Black Panther has more to throw in than Batman does. I just see the scales tipping in his favor by however a minimal percentage as one might believe. It seems that between them whomever has the advantage however small -- will win. And we all know that Black Panther has the advantage in this fight.
Black Panthers suit cannot with stand a jet fuel explosion. Because how it is going to absorb the sound coming at it. When it is heat instead.
Should the panther bring the N,YAMI then the bat's bring the Justice league tower and put the N,YAMI in its place. The N,YAMI may laugh at the bat-mobile but the it is the bat-mobile that is going to have the last laugh.
Batman learn from a peripheral of teachers. He even studied from an inmate, who was a master at some decipline has a wierd name on a secluded island, spent some time in the streets how do you think he came with the name of matches malone.
Ask for sencing things batman peaks up smells faster than wonder woman. Check out Justice league Lords. And batman learned from the best trackers in africa.
Why did that issue even get brought up? Why would anyone care who could survive a jet engine explosion? Neither of them are Superman. It's not like they would stand infront of one just to see who could survive getting blow up by a jet engine.
And if you read my post then you'd know that the Panther has over three hundred of such crafts hidden throughout the U.S. and maybe even more throughout the world. I doubt the J.L. station is as manuverable as these crafts. But again that's off topic. Batman doesn't hold rule over that tower. It's JUSTICE LEAGUE property. Not to mention the fact that he'd not move that station just to take down Black Panther. Not his style.
As for your last comment, T'Challa IS African. Batman's tracking skills are NOTHING when put against those of The Black Panther. He's second to none in this department. All of T'Challa's senses are enhanced to the point where they void out many of Batman's natural " senses ". He'd be able to smell out Bruce Wayne if he were in a crowd of people and Wayne wouldn't even know it.
One thing you should know is that the bat suit negates his scent and heart beat. So black panther would not be able to smell him out. Sorry, apart from that they are the same.
on my earlier post correction
correction it is not the Justice league lords but the Justice Lords.
And panther's suit does not protect him as well from energy based attacks.
Black Panthers [Vibrium (sp)] suit is quite similar to batman's suit. To penetrate them you have to cut them in a special way.
Special attribute from Panthers suits absorbs kinetic force from objects, bullets, and claws. Batman's is well protected from energy attack, and Armor is impeccable.
And the batman tracking has been known to track anybody even when you go underground. You see it pays to be the world greatest detective from time to time. And batman was taught by the best African trackers please do not negate this fact.
Your right batman is not going to bring in the Justice League tower, all he will ask them to do is to get N,YAMI cruiser out of his tail.
In all of my Batman comics I've never read that. His scent is actually covered by his suit? I mean his flesh is still exposed about the area of his face and that would give off a scent. And his heart-beat as well? Hm. I knew his suit regulated and kept tabs on his heart-beat but never masked it. Which issues is this from? Maybe I have it and didn't read that because I was unaware of it. Or maybe if I don't have it I could get it or DL it.
And yes, you're right. The Panther's Vibranium suit is based on dispelling physical attacks and sapping them of their inertia allowing the wearer to go unharmed and uneffected. ( Knife attacks, bullets, physical attacks. ) And were it to be slashed properly it could be breached. But you're incorrect in comparing it to the alloys that Batman might wear. It's much more durable and rare. I've never heard of Batman's suit being energy resistant. Give me a few comic issue examples, please?
I'm not saying that Batman isn't a superior tracker. I'm sure that he's able to find those people that he wants. But in comparison to The Black Panther he's just not as good. You keep saying that Batman learned his abilities from expert African trackers, am I correct? Well, T'Challa is an EXPERT African tracker. It has always been one of the main themes of the character even before he was given his vibranium suit and all of his other gadgets.
I doubt they'd allow Batman to take the tower which monitors hundreds of thousands of incidents all over the world just to go take out the Black Panther. It's a control tower and base. Batman has very little say so when it comes to pulling it out of orbit. Besides, I'm sure Batman would use his jet to attempt an ariel assault on N'yami. His jet is smaller and probably a lot more manuverable. And I'm sure he'd take out the Wakandan pilots with relative ease seeing as how he's The Batman and all. But I doubt it would come that far. T'Challa is the wrong man you'd want to engage in a " war " with. When he declared WAR on the United States he had them shaking in their boots, with good reason.
Originally posted by Nathaniel Grey
However minimal, they are still advantages and between two superior specimens like Batman and Black Panther even the smallest advantage means the difference between winning and losing. And Batman's senses are NO WHERE NEAR Black Panther's. He can smell and track people just as well as Wolverine. His Agility is far superior, he can land from high up on the ground. He can run up buildings and can hold back an ELEPHANT with both arms extended. ( Black Panther #58. )In Batman #608 when he was pursuing Catwoman she cut his cord and he proceeded to plummet a couple of hundred feet downward. He reached out for a ledge and broke his arm while attempting to stabilize his fall. Batman is a " man ". Unlike T'Challa he has no overly enhanced senses. Now had that been T'Challa he would have either A.) Dropped down and landed on the ground without making a SOUND or B.) Grabbed the ledge without braking his shoulder. Batman's not as durable as T'Challa is.
The smallest advantage like Batman's superior fighting ability. I never said his senses were as good as BP's just that they were sharp.
That story, although quite entertaining, portrayed Bat's rather strangely and irratically. In some scenes he's the lord almighty and in other's he's all too human. Since when does Bats reach for a ledge? He usually just uses a grappling hook ya git? And Batman is far more durable than you give him credit for, much of his training has been geared towards this.
Originally posted by Havoc470
from my experience with match-ups, i've learned that experience isn't a deciding factor, i see it as both of them with their suits and no utility belts or anything of the like, i think BP wins due to his superhuman abilities, where batman has good experience so does bp, where batman has martial arts skill bp has his own kind of fighting skill which has proven against humans and even stronger beasts, when it comes down to it the "human" batman is out-classed by the superhuman black panther
You mean lik Croc? Or Bane? Calyface I-V all at the same time?
from my experience with match-ups, i've learned that experience isn't a deciding factor, i see it as both of them with their suits and no utility belts or anything of the like, i think BP wins due to his superhuman abilities, where batman has good experience so does bp, where batman has martial arts skill bp has his own kind of fighting skill which has proven against humans and even stronger beasts, when it comes down to it the "human" batman is out-classed by the superhuman black panther
You mean lik Croc? Or Bane? Calyface I-V all at the same time?
What facts are you making this assumption upon? I could just as easily state that Black Panther is a better fighter than Batman. That doesn't necessarily make it true. It is true however that Black Panther has superior senses to Batman. We know for a fact that Batman is only human with the peak of HUMAN senses. T'Challa is stated as a fact to posses super-human senses. ex; Christopher Priest states that T'Challa has a sense of smell akin to Wolverine's. It's also stated that time and again that the heart shaped herb boosts his already formidable strengths much like the super soldier serum did for Captain America.
I assume you haven't read that Batman comic. His grappling hook cord was CUT by Catwoman and apparently he didn't have another on stand by. So while he fell his first instinct was to reach outward and grab the ledge. Unfortunately he wasn't able to catch hold and he fell only to be KO'ed when he hit the ground. A similar incident happened in an earlier issue Batman #592 " Shot through the heart. " Batman was plummeting 30 story's or so down towards the ground only this time he was able to catch his line on a light but he popped his arm out of the socket and was out of commission. Why am I bringing these instances up? Because due to T'Challa's suit he's not as likely to be inflicted by such damage. I assume that both of them would be having an " aerial " battle at some point over the roof tops. If Batman falls and has no line to help him, he's DONE for. As durable as he is he can't take a 30 story drop. Unlike T'Challa who's able to drop 60 story's and land without a sound. Come on now...that's not an advantage? And don't use the " Oh just because of the suit. " argument. Batman without many of his resources is pretty much useless against his much bigger foes. They're using all of the resources they have ON them at the moment.
It's okay man. There's no shame in throwing in the towel. 😖hifty: You've struggled for the Dark Knight long enough, just give in. No one will think any less of you for it. 😆
I've defended all of my points with unequivocal facts based on comic book comparisons and situations. Everything you've offered seems based on totally biased conjecture and supposition on the grounds that you're a fan favorite of Batman. Though my own views are somewhat biased my arguments have most always been based in what the characters actual abilities and capabilities are. Especially in comparison to those of Batman. Go ahead. Name one of Batman's supposed advantages and I can just about name a way that Black Panther will either knock them down or match them.
Btw, You never answered my question. Have you ever read a Black Panther comic book? Have you ever sat down and read an entire story arch concerning the political, physical and economical struggles that Black Panther had to deal with? If you had you'd probably be agreeing with me. Yes, The Batman is a force that cannot be subverted easily. And I agree that he is one of the greatest DC warriors known. But I doubt that he'd fair well against an adversary such as the Black Panther.
Originally posted by Arsenal
MERCILOUS has got you there, Havoc.
I take it you do not read the Justice League. You want prove well I just gave it to you. Why do you think the batman takes a bath after coming back from what ever he does. Is it because he smells bad (probably) but the real reason is to take off the stuff his suit uses to block his scent. Why on earth do thing he takes chemical bath. His suit also block his heart beat from likes of superman. Smell, heart beat concilled.
The only advantage that black panther had in the tracking department was his senses ability but little did you know that those things are not a plus against the batman.
Sure panther suit is more durable, my point and you just confirmed it is that is not goog against energy based attacks. The batman's suit cannot be penetrated unless you cut it in a special way, Just like panthers. Check out http://www.classicmarvel.com
Yes batman learned his tracking abilities from african trackers. I did not say anything else. Superman/batman 10 supergirl have been taken but nobody knows how but batman told them what from the things that he saw. From start to finish. Is this not what expert trackers do.
Batman build the watch tower he know every nuke and crany but again you are right but wrong I did not say to take out the black panther, I said to take out N,YAMI. Thank you.
Spiderninja008 please if you do not mind I am going to laugh at you for a little while. 😆 hahahahahahaha
Ok I am done laughing 🙂 , who said that batman has energy attacks? You, because I certainly do not remember writing anything like that.
I said that batman's suit protected better from energy base attacks than black panther's.